User talk:Dinoguy1000/Archive/2011

About the (ruby) tag

Some browser (like Firefox with XHTML Ruby add-on installed) will show the Kanji and furigana overlapping each other when the text were placed on a single ruby tag like this one. To prevent it, additional <ruby> tag is needed to show it properly. --Aeris Ventaile (talk • contribs) 04:11, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Can you visit http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Loki,_Lord_of_the_Aesir&oldid=1298295&useskin=monobook and post a screenshot of that? Firefox, of all browsers, should not be having this kind of trouble with Ruby text. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 04:18, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

After viewing the page using two different Ruby add-ons, seems it was entirely depends on how the engine render it. The XHTML Ruby Support add-on with Default settings render it correctly, but it also render some contents as if it were a Ruby text. While the second add-on, HTML Ruby show the text overlapping each other like in the screenshot. So should it be rendered with single tag or multiple tags for compatibility sake? --Aeris Ventaile (talk • contribs) 07:23, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

It sounds like both addons have bugs. What version(s) of Firefox are they recommended for, and what version are you using? And to be valid Ruby annotation, the whole text should be contained in one Ruby tag. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 15:55, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

After doing some research, the HTML5 Ruby spec only indicates using <ruby/>, <rp/>, and <rt/> tags, and I have updated {{ruby}} accordingly. Can you look at [1] and [2] and tell me if the kanji and furigana are still overlapping in Firefox with the plugins?

I've installed the latest versions (as available from Mozilla's addons site) of both plugins in my Firefox 3.6.12, and I'm seeing the same results as you've reported so far. I'm working on some CSS that will hopefully help, though. The overlapping problem is definitely an issue with HTML Ruby as opposed to our markup, though. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 02:54, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Still the same result so far, also tested with Firefox 3.6.12 and default settings for both add-ons. Definitely a bug on the add-ons. --Aeris Ventaile (talk • contribs) 05:48, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I don't suppose you know much about CSS, do you? I'm wondering if HTML Ruby will behave better with the right CSS styles. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 16:37, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'm using HTML Ruby and have the same problem as well. I tried to find the solution and found that adding this for each kanji character that has furigana on it. The problem is there are many pages that the <ruby></ruby> tags are still missing and adding tags to all of them will be so much time consuming. Can you run the Dinobot to do that for me? Blackwings0605 (talk) 15:33, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

I've finally looked at this again (again) and changed how {{Ruby}} works so that it can be used on articles without problems (hopefully), and it should display fine in Firefox with either of the Ruby extensions. You should be able to start using {{Ruby}} on articles, but be careful with it at first - in particular, pay attention to the SMW table at the bottom of the page (if you're using Monobook; it doesn't display on the Wikia skin) and let me know of any breakage you see (there shouldn't be any, but SMW seems rather fickle in general). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:08, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Not sure which Kalin that is.

Sorry allow me to introduce my self, i'm elementalknight (Duelist: The Elemental Knight/Le Chevalier Elementaire). As far as my avatar goes, I'm not sure which Kalin it is. At 1st I thought that it might be Kalin Kessler, but it mite be Kallen your talkin about. Either way i thought it was kinda cool with the entire Team 5D's in it. --elementalknight (talk • contribs) 20:11, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I see what you mean now, maybe Mr. Takahashi might have used Kallen's designs from Code Geass to design Aki Izayoi (Akiza Izinski).--elementalknight (talk • contribs) 22:35, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

This might be a stupid question but when does Code Geass come on? Just curious. --elementalknight (talk • contribs) 23:32, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yep in Florida. So wat Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex the only anime they have on thats good any more or somethin?--elementalknight (talk • contribs) 03:32, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well i hope if they change the line up they keep GITS SAC and dont move it to another night, but if they do maybe about 10:30-ish.--elementalknight (talk • contribs) 20:24, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Good point there, it wouldnt b the same if they take things off.--elementalknight (talk • contribs) 02:35, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Question, i kno its been a while since i posted on ur talk page. Just curious, but do r u a member of the Code Geass wikia. I'm just askin because yesterday i stumbled across Code Geass on the YouTube link in the Close To You song page. And then after watching 2 or 3 episodes found it to be cool.--elementalknight (talk • contribs) 16:22, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Nope, I've never even looked at it (that I can recall, at least) to be honest. Are you watching the original Japanese, or the English dub? (wikipedia:Johnny Yong Bosch voices Lelouch, so if you're a fan of Bleach, there'll be a "Holy shit, Ichigo?!" moment XD ) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:31, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thoughts on Template:Set

• Generally speaking, I really need to think through these things better before implementing them.
• A set-name-based system would be more robust than a set-abbreviation-based one, since historically, set abbreviations do not necessarily have a one-to-one mapping with set names.
  • This may be a problem if there are any cases where two unrelated sets with the same name are covered on the same page, but in those cases, the page should be split anyways.
  • Are there any cases where the same abbreviation, with the same lang code, refers to two different sets? The only one I'm aware of is EP1-EN, which refers to both the Exclusive Pack (EP1-EN001 through EP1-EN008) and Yu-Gi-Oh!: The Movie Kids WB Promo (EP1-EN000).
• Language/region (lang) should be expanded to specify set lang and output lang. Set lang should still be specified in the template (sub)name; output lang should be passed in as a parameter and default to (Worldwide) English. This could be used in pairs to link to a set via its English name, but with the link piped to display the set name in some other language.
• When SMW coverage of set details improves, {{set}} can be changed to fetch actual set names/abbreviations via SMW instead of having it hardcoded. This means the information is all pulled from the same place, making updates easier (however, it also means any templates relying on {{set}} will probably break whenever SMW breaks/is disabled (though this may not be such a problem, since it should typically get used in templates that already rely heavily on SMW)).

As always, I appreciate thoughts of others, so feel free to post any thoughts or suggestions you may have on the {{set}} system. --Dinoguy1000 (talk • contribs) as 208.124.86.54 (talk) 22:41, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

There may also be cases where the link target should differ from the set name (especially when disambiguating set names); the template must be able to account for that. And how to handle cases where the template doesn't get enough info to be able to unambiguously return a single set? (perhaps , or maybe just give back the least-ambiguous set name possible with the given info...) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:06, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Question

What is "Metal Dragon" real Attribute?--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 18:42, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wind - it's right on the card. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:44, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

"E-Hero Fusion Monsters" (1 E-Hero hero + 1 Match Attribute) to your "Template:Six Attributes" and I made some tiny changes. Is that ok?--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 18:43, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Once again, the template isn't "mine". The only major problem I see with your change is the use of the coloring on the text under the group's name; change it to grey or remove it, and I think everything else is pretty much fine. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:08, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Weekly Jump dates

I think, but would need someone to confirm, that the cover date for issues of Weekly Shōnen Jump is four weeks after their actual release date. Do you know if this is true? And would it be safe to say that it holds true for all issues (at least since it started to serialise Yu-Gi-Oh!)? -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:50, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I have no idea. On Wikipedia, we faced a similar problem over a year ago and decided that generally, cover dates are preferred over release dates, since cover dates are usually trivially confirmable (just look at the cover), unless the release date can be explicitly sourced (and even then, the cover date should be given as well).

On a related matter, I've been assuming that when the WJMP promos appear on issue covers, it means the card is actually in that issue - do you know if this is correct? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:55, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Also, do you have any comment about the filenames I've been using? I could see a strong argument for expanding "WSJ" to "Weekly Shōnen Jump", and it may make a certain amount of sense to otherwise tweak the filenames... 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:57, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

When it comes to comparing release dates, the actual one would be more useful than the cover one. Since there's only three magazines to keep track of, if we can confirm that it only takes a consistent simple subtraction for each, we shouldn't have the same problem as Wikipedia. Of course, it is still worth while noting the cover one. Maybe I should add a cover date parameter to {{Infobox/Yu-Gi-Oh!/Chapter}}.

The filenames are fine. I don't have preference over abbreviating the name or not. Although, if using the long one we should probably use "o" instead of "ō". Same with the article name. In Yu-Gi-Oh! macrons tend to get left out in English romanisations (Yūgi Mutō → Yugi Muto). And the American Shonen Jump doesn't use the macron. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:07, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

You mean, comparing between different languages, or different magazines? And while we certainly don't have the variety of magazines Wikipedia must contend with, we *do* have more than three. I am currently aware of Weekly Shōnen Jump (Japan), V Jump (Japan), Shonen Jump (U.S./Canada), and Banzai! (Germany), and there are undoubtedly other magazines we could create articles for (mostly versions of Shonen Jump in other countries). That being said, if we can confirm that a given magazine's release date is constant versus its cover date, we should certainly use that (for instance, the American Shonen Jump always goes on sale the first Tuesday of the month before its cover date (although subscribers often get their issue 2-3 weeks before that)).

Macron-less English publication is actually a somewhat more general trend for Viz - they aren't afraid of using macrons in names (for instance, when he was first introduced in Shonen Jump, Gaara's name was written as "Gāra"), but they generally seem to prefer not using them. Even so, WSJ is "above" YGO, and the stylistic decisions made for YGO shouldn't necessarily dictate our handling of WSJ and other such topics. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:51, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Comparing to anything other than issues of the same magazine. e.g. the cover date for the V Jump issue that Ride 16 was first printed in is January 2011. The tankōban it's reprinted in was released December 29 2010. A timeline based on cover dates will list the reprint as coming before the original print.

I didn't think cover dates for any others would come up too much. But there's also the Swedish Shonen Jump. It and Banzai have four promos between them. I think Yu-Gi-Oh! has also been serialised in Comics House and Comic Champ. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:55, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if we could find release dates for at least a few issues from official sources, if we look around some. We'd be able to use these to extrapolate as necessary (though we should note such extrapolations, and source them whenever possible). Comparing cover dates to reprints seems like a good metric for establishing the latest possible time an issue could have been released, but it still leaves us a certain amount of ambiguity.

I think if we allow for cover dates for these, even if we ourselves don't go looking for them, they'll get filled in by others over time. It certainly doesn't hurt anything to support them, at least. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:17, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot to answer your question about the promotional cards... I don't recall seeing any visual proof, but it makes logical sense. -- Deltaneos (talk) 02:15, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

It is a pretty safe conclusion, at least... I don't suppose we have anyone about who could confirm or debunk this (and if it's not correct, tell us what it really means)? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:36, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you...

for linking to the manual of style on FredCat's talk page. I didn't even know that a MoS had been created for this wiki. Now I see a few things I've been formatting incorrectly. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:41, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. =) It's not really your fault; the MoS isn't advertised nearly enough. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:19, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Me as Admin?

Thanks for fixing my tongue. I am just surprise that he picked me out of random. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 04:33, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. As far as you being an admin, I think you'd be excellent admin material; you just have to work on your temper some (though you've certainly come a long way since I first met you during the whole GrouchMan fiasco). ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:39, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I am current working on it, as of my family that I will move in soon...er. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 04:48, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your respond. I know that's unfortunate for me to not be able to become Admin myself. But it would be very long time before I will be able to becoming an Admin after July this year. So I am not regret it if I have being turn down by that. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 20:37, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Red Nova Dragon vs. Enemy Controller

Sorry if I sound little hasty, but after -dest- said yes that I can resolved Red Nova Dragon's effect ever if the target is removed via Enemy Controller in same Battle Phase, my opponent continued to argue that Red Nova Dragon won't work anymore. This section have explained his answer. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 21:37, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

I am definitely *not* an expert on rulings, but as far as I can tell, Red Nova's effect should resolve regardless of whether it's still in your control when its effect is supposed to resolve (since removing Red Nova from play is not a cost). I'm not as sure about whether Red Nova's effect removes it from play at this time, even if it's no longer in your control.

This gets really deep into the inner workings of chains, something I've never really had a good grasp of. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:53, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your grate answer. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 21:57, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

He said that Red Nova's effect work just like Monster Reborn when try to summon the "stolen" monster (which was being target and removed from play by D.D. Crow). --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 22:16, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

hi

hi, question.

Do you duel?

Crimson88 (talk • contribs) 06:19, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but no, at this point I'm only a collector. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:02, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Archrelated

Based on what is in a lot of other card articles, I would say that the regular counterparts to the Toons should be related. There are plenty of things listed in archrelated that make much less sense than that. "Ojama Yellow" is categorized as being related to "Mokey Mokey (series) because the both appear in the artwork of "The League of Uniform Nomenclature", for example. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:56, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not convinced myself. The only real argument I could see being made for Ojama Yellow/the Ojamas being related to the Mokey Mokeys is that both are low-level, low-power monster series with high-power members. In reality, Ojama Yellow and Mokey Mokey could have been replaced with any other Level 1 or 2 monsters on TLoUN's artwork for similar effect. BEWD and BETD are only tied together by virtue of the latter being a toon version of the former, which means (to me, of course) that Toon Dragon would be related to the Blue-Eyes archetype (as it is), rather than BEWD being related to the Toon archetype (a very tenuous connection, at best). On Wikipedia, this (comparing BEWD/BETD to Ojama/Mokey Mokey) would just be a variant of OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:09, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

I realize that. I believe it was User:Missign0 who added most of the card-art based archrelations to the card pages. That being said, I do feel some of them are valid, such as "Kozaky" being related to the Gagagigo (series) and "Inpachis", since those are covered in a lot of images. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:22, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a decently stronger argument in that case. Really, it just shows that this stuff should be handled with at least a modicum of thought, rather than "HURR THESE APPEARED TOGETHER ONCE ON THIS TOTALLY-UNRELATED-TO-EITHER-OF-THEM CARD SO THEY MUST BE RELATED". The card trivia pages should be used for incidental overlap/relations between cards, as opposed to adding the cards themselves to archetypes that they otherwise have absolutely nothing in common with. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:28, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

The card trivia pages do tend to be used that way, it just gets added to the main article too, which I would agree is ridiculous. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:30, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Fake Vector

Inciclopedia have syled their Monobook to look like Vector. (CSS, JS). It's not exactly the same, but close. 'Might be of interest to you. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:34, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

That does look interesting. I may well adapt it for myself (if I do, I'll look into applying it for myself globally on Wikia). With any luck, it won't end up being a permanent thing. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:02, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

So...

...apparently Judai used the same card enough times that the template couldn't handle it. Taking a guess from looking at the Template:Yu-Gi-Oh! GX anime appearances page, I'll assume that the template can't show more than 50 appearances currently. I honestly think the templates should be adjusted to show 150+ appearances, as if I ever get around to putting the template in "Polymerization", it's not even going to cover half of it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:17, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Counting, it seems that there are currently 58 episodes of GX that Clayman is listed as appearing in. The template *should* just ignore any extra parameters, but I don't know if that's what actually happened or not, since SMW has apparently been disabled again (at least, that's what the third box on my user page claims =D ). That really is some *bad* breakage, though, isn't it? We're probably going to have to move this functionality straight into {{CardTable2}} itself so that we can trivially provide a backup when SMW goes down like this. In any case, I've updated Elemental Hero Clayman so that it'll properly display any number of GX anime appearances (you can use either slashes (/) or commas now, in addition to the up to 50 unnamed parameters, but you can't mix styles). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:52, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I assume that all the redlinks I'm seeing at Clayman's article are due to SMW. So slashes and commas will let list any number of appearances, but "|" will not. Do I have all that right? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:20, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the redlinks are all SMW's fault. I have a nice little fix in mind, once I start working on the /core separation on CardTable2. =D And yes, assuming #arraymap has no upper limit on the number of items it can handle. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:47, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Seems to be some more breakages at Yu-Gi-Oh! GX episode listing - season 3. Your user page says that SMW is enabled, so I'm not sure what's going on there. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:27, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any issues myself... are you still seeing problems (and if so, are they still there when you purge the page and clear your cache)? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:30, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Cleared my cache and its fine now. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:01, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, happy to help (with... headdesks! mwahahahaha! >=D )! 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:04, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Archetype templates removed from bottom of card pages?

I'm not sure if this has anything to do with Monobook, but archetype templates have been removed from the bottom of card pages - e.g. the Egyptian Gods template not appearing at the bottom of Obelisk the Tormentor, where it should be. Was it removed recently, or is this a problem with using Monobook? Toob (talk • contribs) 12:57, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

It's because of a change made to {{CardTable2}} with the intention of reducing the total number of SMW queries across the wiki (with the hope that doing so would decrease how often the devs have to disable it for performance reasons). I'm not sure if the functionality will ever be re-added, but it is currently still present in the sandbox version. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:47, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for the help! Toob (talk • contribs) 18:09, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Forum Headers

Is there are way to change the preloaded line "Please put your content under this line... "? To something like "Please do not delete this header and put your content under this line... " -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:38, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but it currently has to be done for every header, separately, so I'd prefer that a discussion is started in the wiki discussion forum to see if anyone can suggest better wording before the change is made. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:49, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I'll start the page on the forum soon. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:57, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism.

Take a look at this. He's doing vandalism. It might not be the time to block him but he was blocked once. Just telling you this to keep an eye on him. Siguiendo la luna no llegare lejos, tan lejos como se pueda llegar ♫ 02:40, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

I blocked him for a week, he's been at this for a few days. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:55, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Is that the name of that person ??? I think its a long name for a site like this, in Forum setting you can change username characters? If you can, you can reduce username character like 30 o less, this will prevent spammers, hackers or host enter this site. Am not saying this will prevent all threats and I think this will reduce the risk of the page.. Its an opinion... Enyel (talk • contribs) 09:07, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Are you referring to the text "Siguiendo la luna no llegare lejos, tan lejos como se pueda llegar ♫" following the comment above? If so, no that is not his username, any more than "「ダイノガイ千？！」" is my username (though in my case, it is a transliteration of my username, with a couple extra bits). We don't have any control over the length of people's usernames or what characters are used in them, and I doubt Wikia will change it for a single wiki because of how user accounts work across their different wikis (make sure you're logged in on this wiki, then visit a random Wikia wiki - notice how you're logged in there, even though you never logged in on that wiki yourself?). Besides that, limiting username length won't do anything to deter spambots at all. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:46, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

CardTable2

On this page, you cannot click on the "Show" link for "Yu-Gi-Oh! The Duelists of the Roses" Lore section with the new version of the wiki. Probably just a sizing issue, and I don't know if you can fix it or not. Just pointing it out you.

Cheers. ~DragonXDoom (talk • contribs) 05:17, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Aah, the title is overlapping the "show" link, making it unclickable. I have a feeling this may be a problem with some of the other collapsible boxes as well. I'll see if I can do something about it real quick. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:51, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the problem was affecting the lore boxes for several other games as well. What I'd really like to see is new collapsible code that allows you to expand or collapse a box simply by clicking in the header, thus removing the need for the show/hide links, but until we get something like that, I simply removed the {{navbar}} v-d-e links - I'm not sure why they were added in the first place, but they really don't serve any purpose aside from cluttering the table. There's still some overlap with a few games, but it's not nearly as bad as it was, and all the show/hide links can be clicked now. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:12, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Japanese lores + translated

Well, I not familiar with the Japanese language but I can translate Japanese texts, rulings, lores, ect, using translators. If you want to add me in your translators list it should be good to add me as translator of Greek Names (like Montechristo95 and Darth Covah). ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 18:28, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

All right, will-do. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:29, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Closing RFAs

The RFAs have been open for two weeks now, so they should probably be closed soon. Have you anything to add to Falzar FZ's before then? -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:50, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm reading through it again. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:18, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

A O J Catastor

Hey I just wondering... the effect of Ally of Justice Catastor targets ?? — This unsigned comment was made by Enyel (talk • contribs) 04:09, January 24, 2011

I'm generally not the one to ask about card effects and rulings. Keeping that in mind, though, a reading of the effect suggests it does target (there doesn't seem to be an official ruling on the matter). I would recommend asking in Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Ruling Queries for confirmation though. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:13, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

3D pack

You are a freakin idiot, the 3D Pack is right, I messaged Konami and they told me that this is the pack, so don't change it you stupid idiot. If you don't believe me, ask Konami yourself. — This unsigned comment was made by PokemonRulez3 (talk • contribs) 04:14, January 24, 2011

I'm sure you're right, but without a source, you cannot add information to pages on new or upcoming sets. If you can offer a link to a source containing the information (not a forum post or personal blog), you can readd the information, and I won't revert. Until you do, however, I will continue reverting the addition of that information. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:17, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

STOR info

DinoGuy please stop deleting my info that im trying to put on STOR TCG Exclusive because the info im updating is real information and not false thank you. — This unsigned comment was made by K20a (talk • contribs) 00:21, January 25, 2011

Please provide a source for this information (even if the source is already listed in the references section). I am not trying to imply that you are intentionally trying to insert false information or personal guesses, but no one is allowed to add info to pages on upcoming or recently-released sets without providing sources to back up that info. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:27, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism

IF you know how, could you lock my user page and the Skull Servants page? 24.168.97.145 has continually vandalized them, and used homophobic slurs on both pages. Thank you. Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 03:32, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

I blocked the IP for 30 hours, since I doubt protecting the pages would deter them, from the looks of things. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:36, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I appreciate it. It was getting very irritating to have to revert it over and over. Would it be possible to put the protection thing on my user page/talk page so that IP's can't edit them? Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 03:38, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I just saw that you did it. Thank you again. Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 03:39, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. =) More specifically, though, I only protected your userpage - I am hesitant to even semiprotect a user's talk page, though if there's a problem of persistent vandalism from multiple IPs on said talkpage, protection (at least temporary) would be warranted. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:32, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Cyber Dragons

I was notified by Wasn't that someone has seriously messed with the archetype support cat for "Cyber Dragons". If you check Template:Cyber, it's listing every anime/manga only card as "Cyber Dragon" support. I checked a few of the card pages, and it archsupport1 = Cyber Dragons" isn't showing up on them, so I'm thinking it may be a template issue. If not, could your bot help revert everything? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:12, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

It's not just a problem with the Cyber Dragon section of {{Cyber}}, it's the same across every section of that template and of {{Hero}} as well, and it's even displaying on the {{ArchetypeNavbox}} metatemplate, which hasn't been edited since July. It's more likely that this has to do with the fact we finally got the upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16.1 and SMW 1.5.5, meaning it will probably fix itself in a couple of days. If not, we'll need to file a support ticket with Wikia staff. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:00, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wow. Alright, I'll guess all we can do is wait around for now. I don't know if it's related, but the "gender" parameter of Template:Infobox/Yu-Gi-Oh!/Character is completely borked too. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:03, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

That seems to be Extension:Negref getting uninstalled or borked in the upgrade; Delt wrapped it in {{IfSemantics}}, leading me to guess that it was packaged with one of the SMW extensions. If that was the case, it must have been forgotten about in the upgrade, so this'll be another support ticket issue. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:13, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful. Looking around a bit, a bunch of other parameters are borked too. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:37, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Are they all using #negref? If so, they'd all get fixed in one fell swoop once this is taken care of. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:46, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

I checked the template, and yes, the broken parameters are all using negref. All of those parameters are usually references with Yu-Gi-Oh! Character Guidebook: The Gospel of Truth, so it makes sense that they're using negref. Incidentally, I'm not sure why the "gender" parameter is using it, unless it put in to use with bishonen male monster spirits. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:02, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Karakuri Haipa

Dear Dinoguy 1000 This is K20a. *Sigh* I Do Apologize for not putting up a link to my information but The Karakuri mdl 818 Haipa is confiremd. So if you need proof here's the link :http://www.yuginewz.com/ So please can u put the info on to the STOR TCG list thank you :) — This unsigned comment was made by K20a (talk • contribs) 18:09, January 25, 2011

As others noted on Talk:Storm of Ragnarok, YugiNewz doesn't appear to be a reliable source. There is no harm in waiting before we post new information about the set. Also, please be sure to sign your posts by clicking the "signature" button in the edit toolbar above the editbox, or by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments on talk pages. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:19, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sbox7

Some guy called Sbox7 keeps editing the Life stream dragon article, adding in effects it doesn't have and changing the one it does (He seems adamant that it changes the user's LP to 2000, even though 4000 is clearly stated on the card). Anyway, i'm tired of my inbox being full of notifications that he's edited everything so is it possible to change the editing privelages on the card before an edit war breaks out? It would be much appreciated :) Neonian (talk • contribs) 18:15, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried talking to him? Leave a message on his talk page and see where it gets you (and for the record, Life Stream Dragon is on my watchlist as well ;) ). He seems to be misunderstanding the purpose of the "lore" parameter, and tries to keep readding the anime effect. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:33, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'll leave a message on his talk page, but from the looks of it many people have tried and he simply ignores them. Neonian (talk • contribs) 18:39, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's been one person leaving messages from what I can see, and they really didn't explain why what he was doing was wrong, but just asked him to stop. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:11, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Old Cards

That is the best image that I can pull off with the equipment I have. I also own some older cards so getting good scans is easy. Irohanihoheto (talk • contribs) 20:11, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

I wish I had a scanner, I'm bound to have cards we don't have pictures of (especially given the size of my collection; too bad it's almost entirely English TCG cards)... =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:19, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dark magician edit

The 5th OCG/TCG Dark Magician card only shows up in Shonen Jump. Why do you keep changing it to that card? Senakorea (talk • contribs) 08:04, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Our image policy recommends using an image of the most recently-released English version of a card for its card page. The JUMP Dark Magician is the most recent English version, so that is what we use. Also, please sign your posts by clicking the signature button in the edit toolbar, or by typing four tildes (~~~~) after your comment. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 08:09, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, Sorry. Guess I should've read that first.Senakorea (talk • contribs) 08:48, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:39, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

User: Victor yuki Uploding fan made cards

This new user has been uploading counterfeit cards and unnecessary files. I have flagged them for deletion. Please take care of this as soon as you are able. Irohanihoheto (talk • contribs) 18:10, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

But...

You could.... {{Poll}} — This unsigned comment was made by ShEAN (talk • contribs) 03:33, January 29, 2011

While this is true, it's not something you should just add to the main page. If you're wanting to add a poll, you'll have to start a discussion on Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki Community Discussion to see if there is community support for any poll in the first place, and then to decide what the question and options should be. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:51, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Storm of Ragnarok

Hey Dinoguy1000, I found this and I think this would be usessful:

Ghost Rare (1)

• STOR-EN071 The Golden Apples (Secret Rare)

• STOR-EN081 Vanadis of the Nordic Ascendant (Secret Rare)

• STOR-EN085 Chaos Hunter (Secret Rare)

• STOR-EN086 Maxx "C" (Secret Rare)

• STOR-EN087 The Nordic Lights (Secret Rare)

• STOR-EN089 Six Strike - Thunder Blast (Secret Rare)

• STOR-EN021 Legendary Six Samurai - Enishi (Ultra Rare/Ultimate Rare)

• STOR-EN038 Thor, Lord of the Aesir (Ultra Rare/Ultimate Rare)

• STOR-EN041 Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En (Ultra Rare/Ultimate Rare)

• STOR-EN042 Karakuri Steel Shogun mdl 00X "Bureido" (Ultra Rare/Ultimate Rare)

• STOR-EN043 Atomic Scrap Dragon (Ultra Rare/Ultimate Rare)

• STOR-EN073 Gleipnir, the Fetters of Fenrir (Ultra Rare/Ultimate Rare)

• STOR-EN083 Karakuri Muso mdl 818 "Haipa" (Ultra Rare/Ultimate Rare)

• STOR-EN000 Vortex the Whirlwind (Super Rare)

• STOR-EN010 Tanngrisnir of the Nordic Beasts (Super Rare)

• STOR-EN015 Svartalf of the Nordic Alfar (Super Rare)

• STOR-EN017 Valkyrie of the Nordic Ascendant (Super Rare)

• STOR-EN061 Forbidden Lance (Super Rare)

• STOR-EN095 Worm King (Super Rare)

• STOR-EN096 Elemental Hero Ice Edge (Super Rare)

• STOR-EN011 Guldfaxe of the Nordic Beasts (Rare)

• STOR-EN082 Scrap Breaker (Rare)

• STOR-EN084 Shien's Daredevil (Rare)

• STOR-EN099 Overpowering Eye (Rare)

This is the source =]

    :http://shriektcg.twoday.net/stories/11575803/

Enyel (talk • contribs) 10:58, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly what information in this list is not present on our article? Also, could you please post this to Talk:Storm of Ragnarok (and continue to do so in the future instead of to my talk page, for the time that it is fully protected)? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:41, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Eh?

How long as CardTable2 had an attack name parameter? I literally just noticed it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:25, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

No idea, it's been there as long as I've been here in my most recent stint (since around last September-ish, I think). Deltaneos might be able to tell you more specifically. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:27, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'm pretty sure it's not included in even a single card page right now. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:30, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

That's possible. I can confirm this via another tracking category once the CardTable2 update has been deployed, if you want to see (or you can just start going around, adding it to pages as appropriate ;) ). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:00, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Already been added to my list random projects to work on while bored, no worries. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:04, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Exiled Force

Hi, they are a problem on the page "exiled force", you cant show the wc5 card description because the name is too long.

Thanks you.Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 12:54, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not seeing a problem with it myself. Could you provide me some information:

1. Are you seeing the problem on #1 or #2 (or both)?
2. What version of what browser do you see the problem on (and do you see it on any other browsers)?
3. What operating system do you have?
4. What is your browser window width/height and screen resolution? (if you're not sure, you can visit WhatsMy.BrowserSize.com to find out; I'm interested in the first four values)

Lastly, if you know how, could you take a screenshot of the problem, upload it somewhere, and link it here? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:16, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

You dont see the problem yourself?! You must have different screen resolution or other thing. I have "1440 X 990" screen resolution.

1. I dont see what is "the browser". It is the navigator? I have firefox mozilla.
2. I have windows 7.
3. I See the problem only in the #1 page.

The problem is on the card description in the video game "Yu-Gi-Oh! 7 Trials to Glory: World Championship 2005". You cant show this description because the name of the game is too long.

Here a screenshot:

As you can see, you cant click on the "show" button because the name of the game is on it. Thanks you. Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 11:18, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

That's also a problem with mine, wouldn't that new skin just dead and bring back old one bec it worked so better - no limitation of width, clearly to read, stuff. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 11:23, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

The problem is caused because the new "oasis" skin has smaller width than the "monaco" or "monobook" which make the table messed up. For temporary solution, go to your Preferences and change from New Wikia Look to MonoBook Preview in the Site Layouts box. Blackwings0605 (talk) 11:34, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

P.S: Dinoguy1000 doesn't see this problem because he's using Monobook as well.

Problem is, I cannot find that opinion you're talking about, Blackwing. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 11:41, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Orcassassin:

Yes, the browser is the navigator - it's the program you use to access the internet. Could you tell me what version of Firefox you're using? If you don't know offhand, you can see by clicking "Help" --> "About Mozilla Firefox" (your version is probably 3.6.13, if you always install updates as they become available).

Can you upload a screenshot of the entire window (or screen) with the problem showing? And, are you using any custom styles or a different font size or zoom level in Firefox (if you don't know what any of these are, it probably means "no" ;) )?

Blackwings0605:

I actually don't see the problem even on the Wikia skin.

FredCat100:

The option is in between the "Signature" and "Avatar" sections; it's labelled "Site Layouts". 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:49, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, i have 3.6.13 version of firefox. I dont use custom styles or a different font size or zoom level i think, i never change this on the option. I hope my screenshot isnt too large. Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 23:11, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the larger screenshot. I'm still not sure why there should be a difference like this between your installation of Firefox and mine; I don't think I'll be able to fix it from within {{CardTable2}}'s code. As one last test, how does the page look when you edit it, change the line {{CardTable2 to {{CardTable2/sandbox and preview it? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:22, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Fixing the image size. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 00:25, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

1. I dont get signal when you answer me here.
2. If i understand well, i must change the code myself because you cant see the problem even by testing all your configuration possible?
3. Lol, its worst when i change to "{{CardTable2/sandbox", the description of "world championship 2008" cant be showed too.

— This unsigned comment was made by Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 10:44, February 1, 2011

1. Sorry about that, I'll start leaving you {{talkback}} notices. =)
2. Pretty much; I can't get your result on Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox, with either the Monobook or Wikia skin.
3. All right, could you get a screenshot of that case for me?

「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:21, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

The screenshot:

Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 17:45, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

I discover is not so bad with "{{CardTable2/sandbox"!
We can click on the show button because he have some space at the right.
It's better for the description of world championship 2005 but worst for world championship 2008. Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 17:50, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the screenshot. I think I know how to adjust the styles to fix this (although it shouldn't be happening in the first place; I can't figure out why it does =P ). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:38, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

I've finally got this problem licked (hopefully for good). Cheers! 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:00, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Omg, we can see you do serious changes. Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 19:00, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm? I'm not sure whether I should chuckle or ask you to clarify what you mean... =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:01, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

My english is bad?! Maybe i must say "you make serious change". Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 19:04, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh you fix the problem, good job! :)

They are new problems on my computer: When i click on "show button" in several pages, my screen go on the up. I think you know it already but i wanna make me sure. Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 10:58, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm aware of the problem. It is an unintended side effect of my fix for your above problem, and I'm hoping to be able to fix it sometime within the week or so. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:55, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok, i have believe you know this problem its here, i just wanna make me sure. Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 17:16, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yo

While I don't mind your edit to my userpage, I would appreciate your asking permission to do so in the future. Nobody- (talk • contribs) 21:11, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

All right, that's fine. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:26, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

STOR - Rulings and Card Nanes and Numbers

KDE has published STOR Rulings. You can check the numbers and card names inside the document.

http://www.yugioh-card.com/uk/gameplay/rulings/Rules_STOR.pdf

— This unsigned comment was made by Yoan.Yuki (talk • contribs) 18:27, February 3, 2011

Thanks, that should fill in lots of blanks. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:26, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Shining Star Dragon

Hi! someone made a page (Shining Star Dragon) claiming the dragon at the end of Future Colors, is Yusei's new Delta Accel Synchro. however, they have no evidence. just whated to let you know. I think it should be deleted. (75.71.136.197 (talk) 23:19, February 3, 2011 (UTC))

I've deleted the page and semiprotected it from recreation for a week, since this is about the thirteen-dozenth time it's been created and subsequently deleted today. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:25, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thank-you! (75.71.136.197 (talk) 23:31, February 3, 2011 (UTC))

Numbers of Missing OCG Cards

We need to re-check numbers from the following cards:

• Needle Ball
• Hourglass of Courage

Worm Jetelikpse appears in STOR. its STOR-EN096. after Worm Illidan but before Worm King. with this, all DT01 cards has been reprinted.

Checking date: Sneak Peek days.

— This unsigned comment was made by Yoan.Yuki (talk • contribs) 01:02, February 4, 2011

Not sure exactly what you're getting at; which numbers are you saying need to be rechecked? And do you have a source for Worm Jetelikpse's card number (it makes a lot of sense for it to be between Illidan and King, but we still need a source)? (personally, I'm waiting for the rest of the OCG-exclusive cards from the original Vol. and Booster. sets to be released in the TCG... =) ) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:20, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

The Supremacy Sun - Card Rulings

http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&tid=60206&event=FE0006

The Card Rulings for "The Supremacy Sun" has been posted in yugioh FAQ. — This unsigned comment was made by Yoan.Yuki (talk • contribs) 00:39, February 5, 2011

All right, though I'm not sure what you want me to do about it... I don't usually work with card rulings. Also, be sure you always sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:40, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Show/Hide Links jumping to top of page

When I use the Show/Hide links on Card Lores and Archetype Nav Boxes, they jump me up to the top of the page. Strangely, this doesn't happen for Show/Hide Links for Card Packs, Card Support Categories, Deck Lists, etc. Also, all the Show/Hide Links that are working normally look very strange when I load the page. Screenshot below.

Screenshot of the messed up Show/Hide Links that I get after loading a page.

I'm running Firefox 3.6.13 on Mac OS X 10.6.6 with the New Skin. I hope you can fix it. ~DragonXDoom (talk • contribs) 10:33, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I have notice that in all other place, I used same skin as Dragon X Doom is using. I suspend that is a site glitch. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 10:36, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

However, What I think is strange is the fact that it only happens on some Show/Hide links, not all of them. ~DragonXDoom (talk • contribs) 10:42, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

See my last comment above; it's a result of my fix for the labels on the collapsible boxes overlapping the show/hide links, making some of them unclickable for a few people. AFAIK, there is no way to fix this while keeping that fix, without ceasing to use w:c:anime:MediaWiki:Anime-Common.js.

I've noticed that clicking the show/hide link only seems to cause the page to jump to the top when the collapsible box is already uncollapsed. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:39, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I wanna tell you the problem of scroll at up still on the exiled force page. It seem to be the only page to have keep this problem.

Thank you Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 11:15, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm aware of that. As I've said, I can't really fix it until Forum:Move away from Anime-Common.js and company? gets taken care of (which will take a while as I try to figure out just what we actually use). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:10, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so you cant fix "magic formula" too? Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 19:45, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hey Dinoguy1000 there is some guy editing all cards, rulings, images on Wiki could you please do something? 66.66.164.193 (talk • contribs) this is the user. Thank you ȜȠɎȨȴ.Ƿɔ.ɯɨʞɨ (talk • contribs) 19:43, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

They seem to have stopped about a minute after you posted this, and all their changes seem to have been reverted. Let me know if they start up again, and I can block them for a day or so. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:22, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Delinquent Duo

I get a matter when i try to put the statues of delinquent duo in the video game "eternal duellist soul". Me and cheesedude try it with put "|edsstatus = " and it dont work.

Thanks for helping. Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 20:43, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

This is because you also need to use the "eds_sets" parameter. This probably isn't the best situation, though... 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:22, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

I try to put "|eds_sets" up from "|eds_status = " and its dont work. Its hard to do?

Can you help me? Thanks. Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 12:53, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

That's because you either put the thing in the wrong place, or you didn't say what set so it doesn't do anything. [3] Click the link, and edit the "Insert Set Name Here" part.

-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:58, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok, thank you. I dont know what's the set name :S, so i keep it like that. — This unsigned comment was made by Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 17:25, February 6, 2011

RE: Card image renames

No problem. But at least update it because it does not work for requesting the move of anime card images. Siguiendo la luna no llegare lejos, tan lejos como se pueda llegar ♫ 00:10, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Overlap

Hi, they are a problem on the page "Magic Formula". As you can see the words "black magic" is on the set name, thank you. Orcassassin (talk • contribs) 19:53, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, that's ugly. No idea why it's overlapping like that, or why the title cell isn't expanding vertically to contain all the text (though I've been afraid of how the vgname parameters behave for a while now)... hmm. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:04, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

That's looked like for as long as I can remember. I assumed the video game name was simply too long. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:28, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

It's not supposed to, regardless of how long it has. I think it's not wrapping like it should because {{CardTable2}} uses &nbsp;s for the spaces between "Game Title", "as", and "Name". 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:06, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Weird category problem

Chapter Card Galleries:Yu-Gi-Oh! GX - Chapter 037 (JP) is not showing up in Category:Chapter Card Galleries, despite the cat being there in the same faction as those in the rest of the cat. And yes, I tried clearing my cache. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:18, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that the second gallery wasn't closed. I fixed this and did some other cleanup/simplification. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:48, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Always miss the little details. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:51, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Don't feel too bad, I didn't see the problem myself until I was halfway through applying {{Ruby}}. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:55, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Falzar FZ

Hi! I was just writing to inform you of what I see as an abuse of power. User:Falzar FZ has blocked many users and deleted page material. Don't misunderstand, I have nothing wrong with vandals being blocked, but most are just frustrated with the wiki, and I'm sure if they were given a second chance, some of them anyway, would gladly take that opportunity. (Like what you gave me.) However Falzar FZ seems to think otherwise. user: 216.17.228.134 was given an expiry block time of 5 days, however it was changed from 5 days to 3 weeks, and the block time Currently now is 7 months. I looked through the user's history and they did vandalize pages, However, Once they were blocked the vandalize ceased, yet the block time increased. I believe if we were to give this user a second chance, they would take it. it worked with me. (75.71.136.197 (talk) 07:42, February 21, 2011 (UTC))

Can you please at least tell me which pages I shouldn't have deleted? (Apart from the 1 incident where I agreed to delete your Card Trivia at Temporal Machine God Metaion, which has already been marked for deletion, with a valid reason)

I have explained why it was changed to 3 weeks on your talk page. To add on to that, before the 2nd block on that user, I've asked Deltaneos if I should block their talk page access and an extension before I did that.

He replied with "... Feel free to block them from editing their talk page if they continue."

and he did continue, and yet I didn't extend it yet. Even other users were asking if I should stop him, and I replied with if we ignore it, normally, trolls with stop trolling because they're not getting the response they're after, but he didn't, so only after that did I extend the block.

That's like more than 3 chances....

As for the 7 months thing... I have no idea where you came up with that, but the longest block I've placed for continuous vandalism was that 3 weeks one. I have not blocked anyone for continuous vandalism for more than that yet, nor have I changed that block's time since. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 08:07, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can I ask why how they 'trolled all over their take page?' I really am not aware of that. and regarding the 7 months block, I never said you set that block time. I was merely stating that the block time had been changed. (by User:Charitwo). and regarding the page deletion, you have no right to decide what information is useless and what isn't. Last time I checked it was okay to point-out details on the card artwork! (75.71.136.197 (talk) 21:34, February 21, 2011 (UTC))

In the case of the deleted card trivia page, it's not that the information is useless, so much as it is that it's patently obvious to anyone looking at the card. If that face belonged to a particular monster, or was clearly drawn from some mythological creature or something, that would be a bit of noteworthy trivia. ;)

As for 216.17.228.134 - their block log only shows two block actions by Falzar, and none by anyone else. Charitwo's most recent block was in January, and only blocked the person for 2 weeks. For that matter, I'm not seeing any blocks for longer than a month since I blocked User:Wilson10o for three months in December. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:18, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Generally, the only things I delete are either obvious spam/vandalism/nonsense, fan-made items, duplicated/superseded files, unnecessary redirects left from page moves, and pages that have already been marked for deletion (with a reason I agree on) (that trivia page fell into this category). Basically, stuff on the Deletion policy, and the other Deletion page. If it's something I'm not sure of, I mark it for deletion, like what other people generally do, which then gets deleted if others who can delete it agree.

As for the deleted talk page. There were 2 pages actually, the first contained:

[snip]

Followed by:

[snip]

Which was, I must admit, was pretty hilarious at first (due to how desperate he was), but since it eventually became a disruption to other members (ie others asking me why I'm not stopping him), only then did I block him more to prevent it from continuing. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 05:53, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

The only reason I’m upset so much about the trivia is because it was posted by a one-time, anonymous contributor and, not even an hour after it was posted, it was deleted. That kind of blind disregard for people’s ideas is what creates vandals in the first place! (And I should know...) Regarding 216.17.228.134 – he emailed me and informed that he was blocked from a separate wiki (Pokemon wiki) and that the block is effective on the yugioh wiki as well. And how did his talk page affect anything else? It looks like to me it’s just a bunch of gibberish, which YOU yourself said to ignore. And I know you said that ‘became a disruption to other members’ that still doesn’t justify a 3 week block. Couldn’t you of blocked him from editing their talk page without extending the block anymore than it had to of been? (75.71.136.197 (talk) 01:50, February 24, 2011 (UTC))

Actually, it was 'Marked for deletion' after 1 and a half hours, and then, I deleted after another 1 and a half hours. Making it a total of 3 hours. Anyhow, Dinoguy gave a better reason for deleting that 'trivia', I'll keep that point in mind.

I only extended it because of his initial posts. "I was wrongly blocked by an admin, for crimes i did not commit." followed by "haha my favorite is the third one."

which indicates that he is only here to be a troll.

It's ironic how he's also blocked on another wiki... -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:27, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:27, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

In cases like that, where there's no reason to think the user is posting in bad faith, it would certainly help to explain exactly why their page is being deleted, but unfortunately this doesn't happen nearly as often as it should (to be totally honest, even I'm guilty of taking the lazy route with this one). As for the blocked anon, none of their edits here inspire any faith in me that they'll do anything besides trolling and vandalism. I'd be happy to have them prove me wrong after their block expires, but without any indication from their past behavior that they'd be willing to change, I won't shorten their block. Whether they're blocked on another wiki has nothing to do with any potential blocks here; it's not technically possible to block a user on one wiki and have that block be effective across other wikis on Wikia (Wikia staff can globally block users from the whole website, but AFAIK they generally only do that when the user is doing damage to a number of different wikis and shows no signs of stopping). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:54, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

doesnt this remind you of earth style jutsu in naruto

in earth wall(dont rememberhow its written)because its got mokuton Mokuton — This unsigned comment was made by Sartorias (talk • contribs) 16:43, February 21, 2011

Are you talking about "Earth Technique Sealing Move"? The closest Naruto jutsu (style) to it, going strictly from the word "mokuton", would be Wood Release (and, indeed, 木遁 can be translated as "Tree Release" or "Wood Release", at least according to Google Translate). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:03, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Extreme Victory - FAQ

The FAQ for Extreme Victory has been published.

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http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=es&event=IE0004&wid=60786&target=faq

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Yoan.Yuki (talk • contribs) 20:23, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looks cool, but I'm assuming someone else has already run with it in my absence (somehow, my email preferences all got unchecked a few days ago =P ). I'll see how Extreme Victory looks in a minute though. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:05, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

JS fixes

Now that we've more or less got an okay to stop using the Anime-Common.js, (1, 2) any chance you could fix the show/hide problems? -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:04, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, after I've caught back up - been entertaining company the past couple of days, and so haven't been able to be around. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:42, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

RegExTypoFix

I've tried adding a local RegExTypoFix to AWB, but it's not working. Any idea what I've done wrong? -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:08, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure; I wasn't able to get the Wikipedia typo list to work here either. Maybe ask at wikipedia:Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser to see if anyone there can spot the problem or otherwise elucidate why it isn't working. =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:56, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Card Galleries

Thanks for fixing the "!" issue in that card gallery. Its in a lot of them, and I never could figure out how to avoid it. Is there any reason you removed the "perrow" part? I really think a row of four cards looks better than a row of three and a row of one. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:14, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

No problem; it looks like the syntax has been copied between a lot of them without the people really understanding what it does. As for perrow, depending on the image size, number of images, and browser window width, it can force horizontal scrolling (particularly on the fixed-width Wikia skin). It's better to let the browser decide how many images should be displayed on one line, and to grin and bear it when the browser seemingly makes a bad choice (in such cases, you can probably blame the gallery extension before you blame the browser; in my experience the extension isn't as clean and well-tested as it should be). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:20, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

That's exactly what I did, actually. Delt had done a few card galleries, and copied what he did and modified it for other galleries without really knowing how it worked, so there may be more errors in them too. Fair enough on the perrow issue, I'll leave it be and go ahead and fix the other galleries per your changes later. I'm actually working on a new one in another tab right now, so I'll fix that one up before I save it to. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:23, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I went through and fixed all of the chapter card galleires per your fixes, with the exception of ruby card names. My knowledge of both kanji and wikicode is not sufficient for me to figure out that really works. Out of sheer curiosity, what is "!!" actually supposed to do in the table code besides screw up the spacing? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:29, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

"!" at the beginning of a new line in wikitable markup indicates that a header cell should be generated. If you have more than one header cell in the same row, you can mark the end of the current cell and the beginning of a new one without moving to a new line with "!!" - for example:

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! This is a header cell !! So is this
|-
| This is a data cell || This too
|-
|}

results in

This is a header cell	So is this
This is a data cell	This too

Once you get the hang of it, {{Ruby}} replacement is pretty straightforward. The template requires two unnamed parameters; the first parameter is the base text and the second is the ruby text: {{Ruby|Base text|Ruby text}} --> Base text（Ruby text）. This is the same as the code <ruby><rb>Base text</rb><rp>(</rp><rt>Ruby text</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>: Base text(Ruby text).

When you're converting the latter to the former, the important things to look for are the <rb/> and <rt/> tags, which contain the base text and ruby text, respectively (<ruby/> is the "container" tag for the whole thing, and <rp/> contains text that is displayed when the browser doesn't support Ruby markup - the previous example will display as "Base text (Ruby text)" in Firefox and older versions of Internet Explorer, for instance).

There are cases where the Ruby markup will be more complicated, but these are relatively uncommon, and you can leave them alone and ask for help if you're not sure how to handle them. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:02, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, maybe I'll give it a try later. It's something else I can add to my list of things to do when I a edit a card article too. If I edit any given card article, I generally deploy the anime and manga appearances template if it's not there, and get rid of overlinking (which is rampant everywhere for some reason). So there's something else to add to that. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yep. I actually started up my bot a few days ago to do some of this stuff... I got it auto-replacing Ruby markup with {{Ruby}} without any problems, and then immediately proceeded to bash my brains out over a regex bug in AWB which is currently stopping me from similarly auto-deploying the card appearances templates. =/ I've noticed the overlinking, but haven't really been doing anything with it myself; I don't think there'd be any simple way to automatically delink stuff if it's already been linked, so it'd be the type of thing I'd have to do manually. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:01, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering why that wasn't being deployed quicker. Heh. And overlinking is a real pet peeve of mine. Other wikis seem to have underlinking problems. To me, overlinking looks really messy, and it's everywhere on this wiki some reason. Ultimately it's a minor thing, but my OCD disagrees with the rest of the brain. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:11, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

It's not so minor as you might think... ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:48, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I'm aware of that guideline, trust me. Getting rid of things like that encompassed a lot of my Wikipedia edits when I was active. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:12, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, that makes sense (and I should have figured it)... ^_^ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Something I've just noticed. Template:Decklist seems to be showing all three lists by default instead of hiding them. Also, to be sure my browser is right, ruby text should only appear in the Cardtable header, correct? I'm not seeing it where the actual "kanji" parameter is displayed when a page is saved, just in the header. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:32, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, that's a known issue; see Forum:Move away from Anime-Common.js and company?#Done. Correct, the ruby version of a card's Japanese name only appears in the card table header. Confusingly, the "kanji" parameter is what is used for the ruby name, whereas the "jpname" parameter is for the ruby-less kanji name (really, the Japanese name parameters need to be reworked, but updating all 7000+ transclusions would be one massive job). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:00, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then. Yeah, that's excactly what was confusing me. I'm attempted to use the template at "Scrap-Iron Scarecrow" earlier, but I'm not sure what I did wrong. It's looked close when I edit preview, but one of the furigana was over the wrong kanji. I'm going to try again and save the page. See if you can tell me what I did wrong. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:02, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

You were close, but the first two kana shouldn't have been included in the template; I went ahead and fixed it for you. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:12, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

@Dinoguy1000 ya the info of were i got the new info on the Shonen Jump Cards can be found in the yugioh tcg news website same as any yugioh news info. —This unsigned comment was made by K20a (talk • contribs) 02:06, March 6, 2011

Exact or Extract

Oh happy hour, I lmao at your comment when I checked it out the change. How come I never realize that mistake you spot. I would think that's so funny if someone actually dead at the revenge they're creating? *roll my eyes* Oh well, thanks for give me some joy I never got in age. --FredCat 21:43, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, glad to see it gave you so much amusement. =D You might be surprised how many phrases like that there are in English that most people (including native English speakers!) get wrong (but then, it's probably the same for most any other language; I'd be very surprised, for instance, if someone told me that there are no easily-confusable gestures in ASL). ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:01, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Usually, ASL would show an exact hand figures, we the deaf people would usually know which word that fit for them. But honestly, Extract is just not sound so right for revenge if they wanted one. But yes, we all are not perfect, I have seen many mistakes with my friends and companies as I went through my write career. --FredCat 13:17, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

So there aren't any figures/gestures that look quite similar to each other (and, thus, could potentially be confused for each other)? That's actually what I was getting at. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:19, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Exact = Perfect, Specify
Extract = Dead
Therefore Exact ≠ Extract in ASL.
That's how I knew the difference in the sign language. --FredCat 18:21, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting... but I wasn't talking specifically about "exact" and "extract". >.> 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:24, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

I see, just ask me some more if you like to. Any kind of questions are good for me. ^_^ --FredCat 18:32, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

All right, perhaps my question would be better phrased as: are there any hand signs that you have trouble keeping straight? (this might be because they are very similar visually to each other, or because their meanings are very close, or anything else) If you do, chances are good that others have trouble with them as well, and would confirm my initial statement that I find it likely that even sign languages such as ASL have vocabulary that native speakers find easily confusable. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:40, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

That's good question... Only thing I remember seeing other civilians back in my E School (Class that below Middle School) was that they had trouble making a sign for "Pie" and "Pizza", since they both had almost exact same old ASL sign process (P-shape hand slice on the palm in X line) so I had to take over the "shop" to correct the shopper's understandable of which is which. But for now, Pie has same shape as "Stop" (open hand, thumb away, smashed on palm, but for Pie, just slice in V line on the palm instead) while Pizza has spelling Z twice (X-shape finger, shake in the air that following the Z way, quickly) to make it easier to understand them apart. --FredCat 18:53, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Aah, cool. =) (I can't say I really understood your explanation of the signs, but that's more because I'm not familiar with ASL than that you didn't explain them very well) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 09:21, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Indeed... good thing I learned and understood ASL as my primary language. --FredCat 10:42, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I wish I could've been raised bilingually myself (and, actually, my father was a polyglot; he seemed to have lacked the patience to teach me or my brothers any other languages, though =( ). I took some Spanish in high school, but not much of it wore off on me, admittedly... I do intend to try and learn some languages at some point, though, and it'd definitely be nice to look at ASL or another sign language at that time. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 11:31, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ah aw... your old man need some rest for himself, you can learn some various languages through sites or by the college, simple as a pie. --FredCat 11:40, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, I know. ;) I've actually been trying to pick up some Japanese from anime (perhaps not the best way to learn, though it is a great way to get used to how the spoken language sounds). It would help if I was somewhat more observant... =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:30, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Possible template conflict

Weird issues at Yu-Gi-Oh! GX - Chapter 053, none of which were present before my previous edit. I replaced ruby code. Not sure if its the cause, but now Template:Chapter summary doesn't seem to be working and the "next" and "previous" infobox parameters are now displaying chapter links not by chapter name, but by number. Looking through my changes, I can't see what's wrong. Nothing seems to be amiss on the other pages either. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:55, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

No, it's not your fault; Semantic MediaWiki was down (so was Negref, actually). And it's totally not my fault, either. XD *wonders how much more it'll take for a Wikia staffer to swing through and yell at me/us* At any rate, they're both back up (for now, at least), and a null edit fixed the appearance of the page. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:02, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's because of anything you did. SMW was also disabled on other wikis yesterday. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:08, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the timing certainly didn't help. SMW went down pretty much immediately after I made that edit. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:16, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

exceed summon

How do you know that tokens cannot be used for exceed summon? —This unsigned comment was made by 86.27.120.193 (talk • contribs) 20:19, March 17, 2011

It was confirmed in V Jump. When the information was added to Exceed Summon, Blackwings0605 linked in their edit summary to a scan of the page. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:04, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

GX's Future

So where would one find valid info about GX's future, at least the dub's future that is? --Dark Yugi (talk • contribs) 21:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Mainly, official announcements (press releases or blog posts on 4Kids' website, for instance) or comments made through official channels (such as their YouTube, Facebook, or Twitter pages). I think we'd also be fine with an email, if a wiki member known for their veracity were to state that they had received such an email. Really, that whole bit needs to be either given a source or simply removed; speculation and claims of "I emailed them and they told me this, even though I can't prove it and none of you have ever heard of me before, so no one can vouch for my honesty" don't have any place in mainspace articles. If no source is given after a couple more days, I'll probably remove it myself. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:29, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, so just check around those locations then? --Dark Yugi (talk • contribs) 00:03, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much, yeah. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:51, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty then, I'll take a look around. --Dark Yugi (talk • contribs) 17:39, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

water exceed deck

can you help me create a water deck based around exceed summoning? Posably using Superanchient deepseaking please. —This unsigned comment was made by 86.27.120.193 (talk • contribs) 21:56, March 17, 2011

Hello, unfortunately I can't offer any help with decks. If you ask over in the deck help forum, someone there should be able to help you. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

exceed material monsters

Hi i have a question, on the exceed monster text it says about remove 1 exceed material monster, does that mean it goes to the graveyard or does it get removed from play? —This unsigned comment was made by 86.27.120.193 (talk • contribs) 16:42, March 18, 2011

It's likely remove from play, as usually when a card specifies removing one in order to use it, the removed card is typically removed from play. --Dark Yugi (talk • contribs) 17:39, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Wrong, it's send to the Graveyard, if it said "Remove from Play" then it is removed from play. But if it said "remove", then it just going to Graveyard. Understand the ruling carefully, Dark-Yugi. --FredCat 17:53, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

FredCat has it right. According to Exceed Material Monster, "[w]hen an Exceed Material Monster stacked under an Exceed Monster is removed, it is sent to the Graveyard." 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:56, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, my bad. That ruling is always a bit tricky for me to remember off-hand. --Dark Yugi (talk • contribs) 20:24, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Just don't get confused by that words, and just leave my comment alone as if Dino can understand what I am saying. --FredCat 20:44, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

I understand that you mean well by it, Evil Yugi, but it is generally best not to edit others' comments, even just to correct spelling or grammar, unless they've told you they don't mind (and if they have, you have to be very careful not to change their intended meaning). Usually, you probably won't get complaints for doing so, but some editors may take offense at it. The main exception for this might be correcting a redlink or something, though even in that case, you should probably explicitly tell the person exactly what you changed and why. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:09, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh Black Duels

No deleting the Yu-Gi-Oh Black Duels page. I just want to create something on yu-gi-oh. —This unsigned comment was made by Gehan Master (talk • contribs) 23:39, March 20, 2011

You mean Shadow Cards? I wasn't the one who deleted that page; that would be PoirotH. Regardless, it doesn't matter who creates a page or what it's about; if the page doesn't fit the wiki's scope, or appears to be simply made-up (this includes fan-made cards and the like), it may be deleted at any time by any admin. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:28, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Decklist's bullets

In Template:Decklist and Template:Dice Pool when you use an unordered list in more than one of the collapsibles, the bullets in the first list appear as squares, but in any subsequent lists they appear as circles. Usually that makes monsters use squares and everything else use circles, but for a Spell and Trap only Decklist, the Spells will use squares and the Traps will use circles. Any idea what's causing this? -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:40, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Examining the source of a transclusion, it looks like only the first section's list is being added to a <ul> list (the other sections just have "naked" <li> tags). I'm not sure how we could fix this, but it looks like a MediaWiki parser bug. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:54, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, adding newlines between the #ifs controlling whether the cells get added to the table fixed it... definitely a parser bug. =P 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:05, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

List of Monster Cards

Why are there Spells and Traps on this list? Flame Deity (talk • contribs) 03:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Because of "Medium::OCG||TCG" in the query. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:36, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Now it disappeared. Flame Deity (talk • contribs) 03:37, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

It should show back up after a while. I changed the values stored for a few properties in {{CardTable2}}, and until all affected pages are updated, that list (and others) will appear incomplete or just empty (on the other hand, lists that need to be updated will gradually list fewer cards until they are completely empty, unless someone updates them).

The main properties that are affected are Property:Card Type and Property:Monster Type; their values have been changed to be singular. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

original card images

Can I put cards like these on this site?
I know the rules, but I just need a way to work on a wiki safely. —This unsigned comment was made by LV.master (talk • contribs) 23:15, March 27, 2011

No, you are not allowed to upload fan-made cards on this wiki. If you like, though, you can upload them to the Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Maker Wiki, and link to them from this wiki (if you need help linking between wikis, I can help you out with it). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I'm tired of being pushed around!

I can be blocked for 3 days, one month, but being called a moreon for images!
I am tired of this why do people dis. me on the web?
I don't know? But this is silly, talk to your bloggers and help them!
For the record, block me for 1 week and see if I care!!! —This unsigned comment was made by LV.master (talk • contribs) 00:27, March 28, 2011

If you don't want that whole chaos, just following the ruling and you will be fine. We barred all users from place the card image in their User Page and User Talk Page, so if you want to use that card image, use it somewhere other than "Wikia" site. For what I did, it was directly from OTHER site, which I can place the link that automatic change into image once I upload it on the non-exist article with my name post on. That's only permission I can do, is my own fiction card from other place. --FredCat 00:49, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

If you spend any amount of time on the internet, you need to be prepared for the possibility that other people will say things to - or about - you that you don't like. It's the nature of the medium, and ultimately, the only way to keep it from happening is to stay entirely offline (though even that isn't sufficient in some cases). That being said, there really isn't justification for calling you a "moron" for your behavior thus far.

I don't think you need a block, though you do need to understand:

1. You cannot use card images on your user or user talk pages. This is because all cards are copyrighted and we do not have permission to reuse images of them, so whenever we do use them we must use them within the terms of fair use.
2. If you have downloaded a card image from Wikia, chances are it was from this wiki, and so uploading it here just makes a duplicate file. We also have naming conventions for card images that should be followed when uploading them.
3. As I said above, fan-made cards are not allowed on this wiki, though they are on the YCM wiki.

「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

And guess what, I still have my "fancards" in my own wikia pages HERE... Just look at my first link in my front article --THIS IS FREDCAT! JUST CHECK OUT THE NEXT SECTION FOR MORE TROUBLE!

I meant images of fan-made cards. All the same, though, if the only thing a given editor does here is edit a bunch of fan-made card pages in their userspace, I'd be inclined to warn them on it. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:56, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes, but still copy and paste the link from other site still work? --FredCat 17:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. If you're wanting to add images to your own cards, though, {{CardTable2}} doesn't currently have card image support for the User: namespace, meaning you'll have to place the images outside the template. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:13, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Deleting

There are some things online administrators should know, at least in my opinion. between them, one particular applies to this situation. If dome1 took the time & effort to create that forum, and it didnt botter ANYONE that it was kept, then i dont c why it should be deleated, but if you do find a reason of why it should be done, then that is why talk pages exist, to discuss the ´´Life´´ of a page. Talk Pages are pages adjunted to the pages, that etc. ok if u suddenly deleated that page i bet it was because u didnt know what a talk page is, but if u do this again i'll just have to think its a reckless act that should recieve its apropiated treatment. Hope nothing so sudden happens again. Yes, im Pato (talk • contribs) 04:22, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Pato M, I assume you're talking about Forum:If you knew. I deleted the page because you stated that if you could delete it, you would ("ok, i get it, some of you don't like this forum, i'd delete it if i could, but i can't."). In addition, it was originally tagged for deletion on December 17, 2010, neither of the two subsequent edits removed the template, and it remained in place for ~100 days subsequently. As far as I can tell, there was also no discussion anywhere about keeping the page. I am willing to undelete it if you're that bothered about its deletion, but as I said in my deletion summary, I don't see anything in there particularly worth keeping. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Signature problem

The reason why I am asking you here, is that I accidentally "Reset" the Preferences on other Wikia, as I was trying to put back the Custom Signature that I removed without copied it. What was that link again? --FredCat100 (talk • contribs) 16:51, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

User:FredCat100/signature (and the code to add to the "Custom signature" field in your preferences would be {{subst:User:FredCat100/signature}} ;) ) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:58, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

There, I fixed it back to normal. Thanks for your haste answer. --FredCat 17:03, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:14, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Main Page tabview

I know you're not the ideal person to ask (no offense), but I haven't gotten any response from TOR. Do you think it's safe to re-add the tabview stuff to the Main Page? We have the finale of GX manga and 5D's anime and the beginning of the ZEXAL anime all around now, so it would be good if we could have the latest episode/chapter sections up. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if this is a coincidence or not, but it's sorted now. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:51, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

None taken. =) I would've probably suggested just re-adding it and seeing if anyone from Wikia complained. It may sound rather crass of me to say this, but our job is the content side of the wiki, whereas Wikia's is the maintenance side, and this was a case where Wikia's job was obstructing ours and we weren't getting any feedback. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:59, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Emails Not Coming Through

(from http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Dopp/Technical_Update:_March_29,_2011#comm-290776 )

Hi, thanks for reporting this. What you're describing sounds like what we see when someone clicks "unsubscribe". The current bug is that it unsubscribes people from Everything, Forever, with no way to resubscribe. I just had an engineer manually clear any unsubscribe settings from your account, so it should start working again (please also check your email settings under "My Preferences" to make sure they are enabled). If a week goes by and you still don't see any emails, please submit a help ticket via Special:Contact, and include a link to this conversation. Thanks! --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 18:09, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy response; it seems to be working properly now (I got an email notification of your message). It's rather weird, though, I don't think I've ever clicked the "Unsubscribe" link in any of my email notifications... *shrug* 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! (And that's concerning that you don't think you hit unsubscribe but received that behavior. I'll keep an eye out for more cases like that.) --Dopp http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 18:43, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Bug update

The archetype navboxes still don't seem to be working right. I thought all of that was fixed. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:47, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Guess those Admins are little lazy. --FredCat 23:49, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I certainly am, but I can't speak for the other admins... ;) Cheesedude, can you provide links to archetype navboxes that are still not displaying correctly, and specify how they should be displaying? Without examples and knowing exactly what's wrong, I may not be able to fix them. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:24, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

See Yokai Monster It's displaying members that appears in the TCG and support cards from the manga. Manga-only monsters are not displaying for whatever reason. Also, the navbox at Blackwing is missing massive amounts of cards in all three subsections. I don't know of any others off-hand, but I'm sure there are some. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I've tried applying some fixes to {{ArchetypeNavbox}} and assorted concepts, but SMW's behavior seems to have changed in several ways in the most recent update, and I was never really familiar with it in the first place. If my changes don't fix the missing cards, you'll probably have to ask Deltaneos to have a look. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:52, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to say this, but whatever you did appears to have removed the manga support cards from the Yokai Monster navbox. I'll contact Deltaneos, then. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:12, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, I have to admit, that's awesome. =D Here's hoping Delt can fix/has fixed it. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Apparently the problem is that redirects are no longer accepted for the navboxes. Since some archetype pages were moved, this mucked it up. I actually sort of forgot about moving the rest of the archetype pages, but now I'm glad I did, since there's cleanup to be done, which would be easier with a bot's help *hinthint* Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:46, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm horribly inconsistent in running my bot. ;) The problem is, I add rules for it to fix issues as I come across them, and I have the problem of trying to add rules that are beyond my capabilities at the time, so I stop with the intention to revisit them later, and it never happens. The most recent thing responsible for this is an attempt to auto-add the animanga appearances templates; I suspect there's a bug in AWB's regex handling but I'm dragging my feet about reporting/asking about it. =D

In any case, if you give me a list, I can make a bot run specifically to update archetypes (and the more I can do at once, the better *hinthint* ). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:15, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Update list

The following need to be changed from their plural forms. For archetype, archsupport and archrelated, where applicable.

• Advanced Crystal Beasts → Advanced Crystal Beast
• Aliens → Alien
• Allies of Justice → Ally of Justice
• Alligators → Alligator
• Allure Queens → Allure Queen
• Apes → Ape
• Archfiends → Archfiend
• Archlords → Archlord
• Armed Dragons → Armed Dragon
• Armor Monsters → Armor Monster
• Armored Ninja → Armor Ninja
• Assault Mode → /Assault Mode
• Assault Modes → /Assault Mode
• /Assault Modes → /Assault Mode
• Attribute Fields → Attribute Field
• Attribute Spirits → Attribute Spirit
• Baboons of the Forest → Baboon of the Forest
• Bamboo Swords → Bamboo Sword
• Barrier Statues → Barrier Statue
• Batterymen → Batteryman
• Blackwing Tamers → Blackwing Tamer
• Blackwings → Blackwing
• Bugman → Crashbug
• Bugroths → Bugroth
• Burning Skulls → Burning Skull
• Charmers → Charmer
• Clock Knights → Clock Knight
• Cloudians → Cloudian
• Cosmic Synchro Monsters → Cosmic Synchro Monster
• Counter Fairies → Counter Fairy
• Crystal Beasts → Crystal Beast
• Cups → Cup
• Cyber Girls → Cyber Girl
• Cyberdarks → Cyberdark
• Cybers → Cyber
• Cyclers → Cycler
• D-Hero → Destiny HERO
• Dark counterparts → Dark counterpart
• Dark Counterparts → Dark counterpart
• Dark Mimics → Dark Mimic
• Dark Scorpions → Dark Scorpion
• Darklords → Darklord
• Destiny Hero → Destiny HERO
• Destiny Heroes → Destiny HERO
• Djinns of Rituals → Djinn of Rituals
• Doll Parts → Doll Part
• Dragon Lords → Dragon Lord
• Dragunity Arms → Dragunity Arma
• Dragunity Knights → Dragunity Knight
• E-Hero → Elemental HERO
• E-Heroes → Elemental HERO
• Earthbound Immortals → Earthbound Immortal
• Egyptian Gods → Egyptian God
• Elemental Hero → Elemental HERO
• Elemental heroes → Elemental HERO
• Elemental Heroes → Elemental HERO
• Elemental Searchers → Elemental Searcher
• Evil Hero → Evil HERO
• Evil Heroes → Evil HERO
• Field Searchers → Field Searcher
• Flamvells → Flamvell
• Fortune Fairies → Fortune Fairy
• Fortune Ladies → Fortune Lady
• Fossils → Fossil
• Frogs → Frog
• Gadgets → Gadget
• Gadjiltrons → Gadjiltron
• Gaia Knights → Gaia Knight
• Gardnas → Gardna
• Gem-Knights → Gem-Knight
• Gemknight → Gem-Knight
• Gemknights → Gem-Knight
• Geometric Knights → Geometric Knight
• Gladiator Beasts → Gladiator Beast
• Goblins → Goblin
• Guardians → Guardian
• Gun Dragons → Gun Dragon
• Harpies → Harpie
• Hecates → Hecate
• Heralds → Herald
• Hero → HERO
• Heroes → HERO
• Hidden Knights → Hidden Knight
• Infernities → Infernity
• Infinity (archetype) → Meklord Emperor
• Inverz → Steelswarm
• Inzecter → Inzektor
• Iron Chains → Iron Chain
• Jars → Jar
• Jesters → Jester
• Jurac → Jurrac
• Juracs → Jurrac
• Jurak → Jurrac
• Juraks → Jurrac
• Jurracs → Jurrac
• Kings → King
• Landstars → Landstar
• Lavals → Laval
• Legendary Dragons → Legendary Dragon
• Legendary Planets → Legendary Planet
• Lightsworns → Lightsworn
• LV Monsters → LV Monster
• M-HERO → Masked HERO
• M-Heroes → Masked HERO
• Machine Emperor → Meklord
• Machine Emperors → Meklord
• Machine Imperial Soldier → Meklord Army
• Machine Imperial Soldiers → Meklord Army
• Magnet Warriors → Magnet Warrior
• Mainspring → Wind-Up
• Majestic Mechs → Majestic Mech
• Majestics → Majestic
• Majus → Maju
• Masked Hero → Masked HERO
• Masked Heroes → Masked HERO
• Masked Knights → Masked Knight
• Masks → Mask
• Match Winners → Match Winner
• Meklord Armies → Meklord Army
• Meklords → Meklord
• Meta Hunters → Meta Hunter
• Metal Counterparts → Metal counterpart
• Mokey Mokey (series) → Mokey Mokey (archetype)
• Monarchs → Monarch
• Morphtronics → Morphtronic
• Moths → Moth
• Motors → Motor
• Mummies → Mummy
• Mystic Swordsmen → Mystic Swordsman
• Neo Flamvells → Neo Flamvell
• Neo-Spacians → Neo-Spacian
• Nordic Beasts → Nordic Beast
• Nordics → Nordic
• Ogre Grottos → Ogre Grotto
• Ojamas → Ojama
• Parshaths → Parshath
• Penguins → Penguin
• Phantom Beasts → Phantom Beast
• Piece Golems → Piece Golem
• Poker → Poker Knight
• Poker Knights → Poker Knight
• Princesses → Princess
• Quiz Panels → Quiz Panel
• Reactors → Reactor
• Resonators → Resonator
• Ritua → Gishki
• Robos → Robo
• Roid → Vehicroid
• Roids → Vehicroid
• Roses → Rose
• Sabers → Saber
• Sacred Beasts → Sacred Beast
• Sacred Knights → Sacred Knight
• Sad Stories → Sad Story
• Sealed Beasts → Sealed Beast
• Silent Magicians → Silent Magician
• Silent Swordsmen → Silent Swordsman
• Sky Scourges → Sky Scourge
• Speed Spell → Speed Spell Card
• Speed Spells → Speed Spell Card
• Spheres → Sphere
• Spiders → Spider
• Spirit Messages → Spirit Message
• Symphonic Warriors → Symphonic Warrior
• Synchrons → Synchron
• Synthetic Angels → Synthetic Angel
• Tech Genus → T.G.
• Temporal Machine God → Time Lord
• Temporal Machine Gods → Time Lord
• The Agent → Agent
• The Agents → Agent
• Toon Monsters → Toon Monster
• Toys → Toy
• Turbos → Turbo
• Ultimate Insects → Ultimate Insect
• Unicorns → Unicorn
• V-HERO → Vision HERO
• V-Heroes → Vision HERO
• Vairon → Vylon
• Valkyries → Valkyrie
• Vampires → Vampire
• Vehicroids → Vehicroid
• Vision Hero → Vision HERO
• Vision Heroes → Vision HERO
• Volcanics → Volcanic
• Wheels → Wheel
• White Warriors → White Warrior
• Wicked Gods → Wicked God
• Worms → Worm
• X-Sabers → X-Saber
• XX-Sabers → XX-Saber
• Yokai Monsters → Yokai Monster
• Zombie counterparts → Zombie counterpart
• Zombie Counterparts → Zombie counterpart

• There may be some pages that are still using "Machine Emperor", "Machine Emperors", "Meklords", "Machine Imperial Soldier" and "Machine Imperial Soldiers". The first three should now be "Meklord" and the last two should be "Meklord Army".
• There's also a possibility that there are some pages still using OCG archetype names before the TCG names were confirmed. "Inverz" should be "Steelswarm", "Tech Genus" should be "T.G.", "Rituas"/"Ritua" should be "Gishki" and "Vairon"/Vairons" should be "Vylon". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:14, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

All right, I'll try to get started on this later today; in the meantime, list any others you think of/come across/rename. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:29, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

You got it. I should time to move some more pages tomorrow, assuming we do want go through with moving the rest of the pages. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:32, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

It's been several months now since this was started, and (as far as I know) not one person has posted a comment saying they think it shouldn't happen, much less providing any sort of argument as to why they might think that way. The people who were reverting the moves probably just didn't understand why the pages were being renamed. I'd say, start up again. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

When I said "Admin", I don't referring to Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikia's Admins, I am referring to one who was such to improve and flipping the wikia (general) sites. They are little lazy for not complete this part. --FredCat 18:03, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Aah, I see. A better term for Wikia employees would probably be "sysadmin" or "staff". ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:12, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, that's them. --FredCat 18:21, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it's time to take out the cheese out of his skull... He just took his name out of this article like a foolish! *shake my head in pitiful* --FredCat 01:18, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ehh, maybe he just needs a bit of sleep... ;) It takes a lot of skill to be able to edit wikis when you're dead-tired and not make huge mistakes (of course, if Cheesedude *wasn't* tired, then I have no idea what caused him to slip up like that) (and yeah, I'm speaking from personal experience here). =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:08, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, let's go with that. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:07, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

^@^ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:46, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

*had some experience with Pokemon just now* Machoke, Sleep Powder!
*Cheesedude is now sleep*
It's Super Effective!--FredCat 16:01, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Heh. I hated Zubats myself... The little bastards, always using "Confusion"... =P 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

FredCat, I'm pretty damn sure Machoke can't learn Sleep Powder. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:09, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Then explain this; http://www.halolz.com/2010/11/28/machoke-used-pound/ (Had to put on nowiki to prevent the click-able) --FredCat 12:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Someone decided to redirect "Masked Hero" to "Masked Hero". Now I cannot find the actual page content in the edit history anywhere. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:18, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Special:Undelete/Masked_Hero is it somewhere there? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:21, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Got it, thanks Falzar. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:24, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Done. All pages that are still at plurals are because their singular forms have actual pages, or because I thought the plural form made more sense in that case (Six Attributes, for example]]). Hopefully I didn't miss any. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:57, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about those screw-ups and fixing the "Valkyrie" page. I did the same thing at "XX-Saber", but I think I fixed it. Not really sure what I did that caused that. Seems I somehow moved a page to the same name multiple times. <_< Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:17, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

It's possible you inadvertently double-clicked the "Rename page" button on the move page. I do that every once in a while with the "Publish"/"Save changes" button on edit screens, and thus edit-conflict myself. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:22, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Unprepared Danger

Isn't the number on Unprepared Danger 61? (I thought it would be better to ask rather than edit it straight away). --Dan Green (Real name • no gimmicks) 15:16, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

That's possible, but it's pretty much impossible to be able to tell for sure from the current image. There's no harm in waiting until we either get a better image or get confirmation from another source, though. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:17, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Okie dokes. Thanks anyway. I just wanted to ask, just in case someone had missed it. --Dan Green (Real name • no gimmicks) 17:38, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:43, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Aero Shark

Nope, just force of habit since I've been doing a lot of GX manga stuff recently.. I don't use edit tools. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:49, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Aah, makes sense. By the way, while I've got your ear, I've decided (ridiculously late in the game) that the animanga appearances templates should separate episode/chapter numbers with a comma-space instead of a slash, as this is more readable and allows for sane wrapping in cases of many episode/chapter numbers. Don't worry too much about going back and updating pages using slashes, though (I intend to sick Dinobot on that one once I finally get the current issue with it worked out). ;) and yes, you can feel free to throw stuff at me for taking so long to make up my goddamned mind =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:20, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'll use commas in any future ones I add then. Or if I happen to edit a card article that already has it for any reason. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:32, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

All right, thanks. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:33, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Wait.

Zeus Breath and Poseidon Waves are identical besides the name. Not sure if we need separate articles. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:27, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Aah, so they seem. I got the impression somehow that Poseidon Waves was a spell card featuring a ship or sub and an orca whale... =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:28, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

It sounds like you combined the images of "Surfacing" and "Salvage" in your head and then thought they were "Poseidon Waves". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:44, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, that very well could be. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:42, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

That's one quite an analogy, Cheesy... I was thinking same. --FredCat 19:51, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Please don't call me that. Just "Cheese" will do. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:08, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, just felt like calling ya that. Gotta blame the feline love inside my instinct... --FredCat 17:03, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

New Card...

Do you think that Mira is Lyna's older figure or was Mira the Eternal Magician, Lyna the Light Charmer's lost mother? I noticed their similar (of course, except for hair-bang difference) --FredCat 17:02, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that myself, the very instance I first saw the card image. They have, for instance, very similar belts, and there's all sorts of precedence for the possibility of Mira being an older version of Lyna (though at the same time, the other Charmers' names didn't change nearly as much as in this case). It's a strong possibility, going off of the images, but I think we'd be better off waiting to see if Generation Force introduces any additional Charmer support before we jump to a conclusion (since, unless I'm mistaken, every set that has featured Charmer advancements has also featured support for them). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:55, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

I respect that, but usually, Charmer's advanced version (In case - Familiar-Possessed, since there are no article for them alone) released in same order Charmer released. Aussa went first, then Eria, next is Hiita and finally Wynn in Lost M. Pack, their familiar-possessed version released in same order in Elemental Energy pack. I would say same with their third advanced forms (Anger Name). Then we get Dharc (which is male) from The Duelist Genesis and finally get Lyna from The Shiny Darkness. I am pretty sure that it's little impossible to get Lyna's "advanced" form first since Lyna was AFTER Dharc, who have no Advanced Form at this minute we are speaking. This therefore bring me to the thought of Mira being Lyna's long lost mother. --FredCat 20:58, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

I would say this is similar to "Eria the Water Charmer" having an implied (non Familiar-Possessed and non-insert synonym for mad here) counterpart in "Gishki Erial". Actually, this is quite an appropriate example for another misuse of "archrelated". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:31, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

That's only 1 letter difference... Eria added L to her name because of "Ritua" crap. Oh what the, Chees.... I am thinking.... Hmm... Oh yes, Cheese, what are you doing on Dino's Talk Page? You also forgot that Wynn's gone psycho. --FredCat 01:08, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Latest episode/chapter main page links

What's up with them? All the manga chapters save the GX one do not display properly. It is it due to missing infobox parameters? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:35, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... looks to be a problem on Wikia's end. Best to be patient and see if it gets fixed, I think, and if not, to shoot them an email. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:32, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose you are in the right. In fact, my dispute with that user was eventually resolved, but other stuff came up and I forgot to remove the protection. I apologize and, in the future, will use the protection feature only when it's necessary. PoirotH (talk • contribs) 03:07, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I will.I just want to say that when I put up the protection, it was for the sake of article. Usually, when two users are repeatedly editing an article because of their own opinions, a protection is imposed so that the users will have to settle their differences without moving back and forth between edits, or at least that's how I thought things worked out. I even tried to state my reason for putting the protection, but when I tried inputting the period of protection, it erased my comment, and when I tried to comment, it went from "1 week" to "other time".PoirotH (talk • contribs) 03:20, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Template:Card table set

Could you give me a list of articles that you are testing that template in? I saw the template being used at "Smashing Ground". Didn't want to remove it, thought it may be one of your tests. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:44, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

The two main ones are (should be) Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes White Dragon. Other than that, if I really need to test it somewhere, I'll just edit the individual article at the time I'm testing (I originally added it to about a dozen articles myself, before I realized I'd be making such large changes as I have planned, but DM and BEWD cover most of the testcases I should need). Nice to see, though, that others have taken it upon themselves to add it to almost 50 other articles, in spite of the clear warning box on the template itself and my own repeated protestations. :rolleyes: 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:45, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Fair use staff and cast images

Looking at Wikipedia's unacceptable use for non-free images. It lists "Pictures of people still alive... provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image. This includes non-free promotional images." Is this just taking extra caution or are we strictly not allowed to use images like this for staff and cast member articles. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:47, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

It's extra caution, mostly. I doubt we'd be able to get non-fair-use images of most of the people we have articles on here, so we pretty much have to settle for fair-use images of them anyways. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:45, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Complex Questions here

Here you go. --FredCat 14:38, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think I can help any there; I still don't really understand most of the more complex mechanisms and rules of the card game (I actually don't even have a solid grasp of chaining... =/ ). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:40, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, sorry I asked. --FredCat 19:03, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:04, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Gallery Trouble

Just to let you know that Stygian Sergeants have two pictures that are not fixing correct. And I have no knowledge of how to fixing it correct with my current power. One of them is French and other is English, but they are not place in correct code. If you can, just tell me how to fixing it in future reference? --FredCat 12:17, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like Falzar fixed them; the images you changed the gallery to use haven't ever been uploaded as far as I can tell. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:31, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I know, but I just put in correct link while the real links are not process to be there at that time. I do noticed that he speed change them before you ever responds... If you have knowledge the fixing link and change into correct one, I would be happy to join and help. --FredCat 15:57, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'm really not sure just what happened there. I don't doubt you that you used the correct image names at the time, but the names you changed them to have no deleted history or logs, and the names Falzar then changed them to don't have any records of renames. =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:48, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Card evolution(s)

I know that you just reduced E into e, but what about "-s"? Should it stay there or burn out with Dark Room of Nightmare? --FredCat 01:35, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure to be honest; I can't decide which one sounds better/makes more sense. Perhaps it'd be best to see if Delt has an opinion on it? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:05, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Or Cheesy- I mean Cheese. --FredCat 10:36, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I prefer the s on there. The article is about the evolutions of cards, not about the act of cards evolving. Yeah, ask Delt. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:11, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh! R in image policy

It's not listed there. Is that an oversight, or do we count the same as "DM"? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:33, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

It's probably just an oversight; I don't think we'd count it the same as "DM" unless the two were pretty much the same thing... You should probably ask Delt to be sure, though (either way, feel free to add it to the policy ;) ). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:48, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Personnal Image Use

Hey! I deleted all the pictures from my user page but i really feel like a Troll or a criminal when i see the message FredCat left on Falzar's user talk page... Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for you nice message and i will not do it again. Sorry. Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 19:35, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Are you talking about User talk:Falzar FZ#Image Copyright? Don't worry about it; FredCat wasn't trying to be disparaging of you there, I think (he's not always able to make his meaning clear, since English isn't his first language, so sometimes it can be hard to tell if he's just making a statement or if there's something more behind his comment ;) ). As for the images, I'm glad you're so willing to remove them yourself, and hope this won't discourage you from continuing to edit. If you need help with anything, feel free to ask me! =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:32, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I actyally "created" the french yugioh wikia a few years ago (which is basically, like all others, the same kind of structure as this one but for french speaking person who really can't read english), so yeah, I know how to create all the gallery stuff but it's so boring lol... I just have a small amount of scans on this computer but I want to upload as many as i can before starting to touch the galleries itselves. --Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 22:42, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I can see that... =) That'll be fine, take your time. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:17, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Good day! I made a little mistake, this file: File:ScrapBeastDREV-FR-R-1E.jpg is actually unlimited edition (not first edition). Could you rename it? Thank you. Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 13:03, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Thought you should also know that Template:Rename media would probably be better to use. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:06, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Falzar. =D Also, Wilimut, there's {{OCG-TCG card image}}, which will automatically detect if the image is named correctly based on the information you provide it, and if not, mark the image for renaming (though since it relies on {{Set}}, which is woefully incomplete, it's gonna mark a *lot* as needing renamed until {{Set}} is fleshed out more (or I rejigger it some)). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 13:34, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Just a thought, if you own the card, wouldn't that allow more er... 'rights' over the copyright. AKA you can legally use it for more stuff than if you didn't own the card. (which is why I didn't say anything about it before Fredcat asked me; was trying to look it up, didn't find anything) -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:42, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I dont get your point falzar... Yes i do own all the cards that i upload but why would i have more rights about it since I can't technically prove that i own them? --Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 13:54, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Falzar: No, ownership isn't the same thing as copyright. To be sure, owning a physical copy of a card entitles you to do just about whatever you'd like with it (short of making other physical copies) - keep it, sell it, give it away, destroy it, etc. - but it doesn't grant you any special privileges on what you can do with the image/design of the card; you still have to abide by fair use. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:06, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 22:47, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

By the way, I think this picture isn't really well nammed or even appropriate...: File:PotofDualityDREV-EN-ScR-UE.jpg Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 19:58, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Also, what template should i use for files that people upload but are already on the wikia such as this one: File:Blue-Eyes_Shining_Dragon.jpg ? Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 21:42, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

For duplicate/bad files, Template:Delete. For Pot of Duality, the previous version was UE (kinda), I'll make the DREV UE gallery some time. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 22:47, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Bots and File names

After making a Category, would it be possible for a bot to go through the names of every file we have and add a category to them if they contain certain characters in the name? e.g. "Category:Tag Force Card Images"; for files containing "VG-TF" in the name.
So in the end, we'll end up with something similar to Category:Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship Sprites but for those Tag Force images. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 05:58, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

It should be (though it's not immediately obvious how to in AWB, for whatever reason). Keep in mind that part of the reason I'm developing {{OCG-TCG card image}}, though, is to eventually allow images to be auto-categorized (I plan on making more templates modeled after it; at the very least there'll be one for VG images (and actually, it may be easier for that to cover VG, anime, and manga images than to attempt to add animanga support to the current OCG/TCG template... hmm) and one for non-OCG/TCG card games) - I'm not against hardcoding the categories for now, but they'll need to be removed later. I'd also like to look into the feasibility of adding properties to images; I think we could do all sorts of crazy fun stuff with them if we can use SMW on them. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:21, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I see. I wasn't expecting VG images to be in that template, but since they are, it'll be fine to leave them as they are for now. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 07:46, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

It sounds like you misread me; VG images aren't covered in {{OCG-TCG card image}}. I was saying I was planning another template, based on that one, for VG images. On the other hand, if you *did* correctly understand me, then I clearly misunderstood you, and you should feel free to smack me while clarifying yourself. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:49, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Not sure about something.

Hi, just to be sure. this file should be named File:TheMaskedBeastLON-EN-UR-UE.jpg and this one should be named File:TheMaskedBeastLON-NA-UR-1E.jpg? Am I right or totally wrong? If I'm right, then the work we have to do is actually way bigger that what i thought lool... Compare to the wrong ones, it seems like there's just a few of well names files... Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 15:20, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, both of those renames are correct. I don't think the image policy has really been observed very closely until just recently, and even back when it was first instated, there were already a lot of files uploaded that sort of followed it, but never got renamed.

The method I was planning on using for cleaning up file naming would probably have been to just pick a set gallery and work through the whole thing, before moving on to the next, and I would have been creating missing galleries as I went. --Dinoguy1000 (talk • contribs) as 66.116.9.175 (talk) 20:27, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

What about Set that has different names in different languages. By that, i mean old sets such as LON (LDC in french). For those one I've uploaded a file under that kind of name : File:ExampleLON-FR-UR-UE.jpg. But for LOB (LDD in french), I've uploaded like this: File:ExampleLDD-FR-UR-UE.jpg. It is not written in the policy so I really don't know here what you prefer. I continue to upload under the name LDD until I got your answer. I would consider the second example, so it's more clear to anyone who look at the card. They won't be surprise to see different letters than it's announced in the name! Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 07:12, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

That's a good question. I could see a convincing argument for either way, since we note the region/language in the image name as well as the set... You may want to ask Delt for his opinion. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 08:26, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

It might be safest to use the languages' local prefix. The contents of sets can sometimes vary between languages, so for some sets (e.g. SD16 and SDSC and the two Structure Deck: Mariks) it could be argued over whether they're different sets or different language versions of the same set.

But as you said there's probably many more arguments for both cases. Like SDM can refer to the Japanese Structure Deck: Marik or the Italian Spell Ruler. And how does this decision affect your {{OCG-TCG card image}} templates? -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:53, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm also thinking that using the languages' local prefix is the best system. If a new user wants to upload a card subject to this problem, he would name it with the prefix written on the card itself rather than having to search for the correct prefix if he doesn't know... Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 14:01, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

"And how does this decision affect your {{OCG-TCG card image}} templates?" - It shouldn't. The template that would actually be affected would be {{Set}}, and precisely this situation fed into my decision to design it the way I did (which makes it even funnier that I didn't think of this for card images until now). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:07, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Request on Walnut Admins...?

May I post my comment there ever I am not an admin? If not, then I would just tell you what I have to say there on here instead. --FredCat 23:02, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Are you referring to Yu-Gi-Oh!:Requests for adminship/Wilimut/1? Yeah, feel free to comment there' RFAs aren't admin-only. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:00, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ah good, I respond there on Support. I was just be caution since of GrinchMan's appearance. If you recalled, I had an edit war with him while ago but it gone settle as we became friends. --FredCat 17:08, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still waiting for your opinion on Yu-Gi-Oh!:Requests for adminship/Wilimut/1. I'm really tired of using {{delete}} or {{rename media}} haha !! Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 20:59, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I've been rather busy IRL over the past few days, so I haven't had a chance to look at it again. I'll try to do so in a bit, though. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:02, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Chrysalis monsters on Template:Six Attributes

About "Template: Six Attributes is it OK to call "Chrysalis" "Neo-Spacian babies" over "... Infants". I called them babies because and are the 1st stage in living things--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 02:10, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Why not simply call them "Chrysalis", per their archetype name? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

That was just to show people how they are related to Neo-Spacian. That's Y I put them under "Neo-Spacian" same with E-hero... Neos Fusion Monsters under E-Hero Fusion Monsters. but if you want them to "simply call them "Chrysalis", That's fine too. Reminder and off topic: "Chrysalis"=babies, Neo-Spacian=childrens, and their Fusion=adults--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 04:18, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

"Chrysalis", "Neo-Spacians", and "Contact Fusions" together that's good. I didn't think about that. but for NS and CF should we add a little note one what we mean by those so they know it;s not the whole thing? What sucks now for me is that, I have to fix "Six Attributes".--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 04:33, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think any note is really necessary, at least in the template itself; it shouldn't be that hard for a person to figure out from context that the listed NS and CF monsters are those related to the Chrysalis monsters. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:16, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

It'll look ugly with the "notes" for them anyway. BTW what do we do with NS-Fusion there just two of them. Neo-Spacian Marine Dolphin and Neo-Spacian Twinkle Moss. —This unsigned comment was made by Wasn't (talk • contribs) 21:53, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

If those are indeed the only two, then we don't do anything with them. They don't fit in to the current Chrysalis/NS/CF Six Attributes group, and since there's only two of them, they don't form their own SA group either. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:09, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Archive?

It seemed like it's time to remove the loadass of dead topics you have on this article and shove them somewhere so we, the other users, can have easily time to scroll up the page. It was fifteen times I had used my finger to roll down to this length and already dead, flat and out of gas on the mouse. So I am sorry about my rant, so can you do this please? --FredCat 20:56, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think "Dinoguy" is online. He hasn't replied to my question yet.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 23:47, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I might do so later; this page is getting about the length for when I normally archive anyways. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:12, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

you have 33 archives how do you manage all those; just curious. Anyway "User talk:FredCat100" has a lot more archives and that 450 archives so far; he's an expert.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 21:45, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, Wasn't... It's just 450 topics, but in reality it's about 10th Archives and I kept them limited to 50 each Archive... But right now, it's 465 topics, 50 per first 9 archives and 9 in tenth as well as 6 in the current Talk Page I am leaving there. Fifty is perfect number for me to keep them from forcing my readers to break the mouse apart or ready to shove the keyboard into the computer screen. But honestly, Dino... you should make it simple and easy. --FredCat 22:23, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm probably gonna use more than one archive for this year, yeah. Just not sure on how I'll split it yet. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:10, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

about "Template:Four Elements"

Should we add "E-hero" Electrum's Fusion-Materials on the "Template:Four Elements".--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 00:47, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure; that seems to be the strongest tie between the four of them (they don't have the same Level, ATK, or DEF, and Bubbleman is an Effect Monster whereas the other three are Normal Monsters), which isn't really much, needless to say... Maybe Delt has an opinion on it, though? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:06, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I only I meant it as his Fusion-materials since they're all 4 Attributes.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 02:12, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I got that. ;) I was saying that that seems to be the only significant tie between the four, though, so it doesn't seem (to me, at least) enough to label them as a "Four Elements" group. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:16, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

One more thing, He also supports 4 Attributes and also be treated as them.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 02:29, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

It still doesn't make for a terribly strong case IMO, but like I said before, maybe Delt will have an opinion on it. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:32, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I get it, but whose "Delt"?--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 02:45, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Delt ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:56, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot to tell you I put "Itsu" monster's on 4 attributes. But I don't know what to write about them.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 22:09, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that. I'm really not sure what to write either, but a brief (even just 1-sentence) summary would be a good start, I think. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:31, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I wrote a few sentences about "Itsus": Relations, Appearing on cards, "...". I'm not sure if that.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 02:32, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

It's better than nothing, I think. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:47, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Possible history merge needed.

"Six Style - Dual Wield" and "The Six’s School of Dual Wielding". The former is the correct TCG name, so I think the latter should be merged in and then redirected to it, maybe. It appears that a "trans" parameter is already in place, which uses a completely different name. So I don't know which is the proper translation. Yay. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:09, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

It was a copy-and-paste page move (the only change between "The Six's School" and "Six Style" was the addition of the en_sets parameter), I've merged them together. I think it's possible the Japanese name could translate to either "The Six’s School of Dual Wielding" or "Dual Wielding Style of The Six", but Google Translate isn't helping. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:11, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Unofficial Name/Lore Funny Stuff

I understand how you feeling, but that's just an "Old Habit Dead Hard" crap... This site is for English version only, and they maybe think that English part is little important and the like. So that's why they put it up there first before rest of other. At least they should know the difference from Unofficial and CardTable details. --FredCat 19:50, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter either way, and there is certainly a case to be made for doing it each way, so it's really a matter of personal taste more than anything, I suppose. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:52, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

They should eat their feet once they know the difference. --FredCat 19:52, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Om nom nom? =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:54, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Not you, the idiot who not understand the difference of English at first line and Unofficial craps. --FredCat 19:55, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know. ;) BTW, {{Card table set}} is still not deployable yet; I'll make a big fancy announcement when it finally is. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:56, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

So that was you who shove that table set in this site at first place? I just got used of it well. --FredCat 19:57, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yep. Back when I was still working on it actively, I test-deployed it to a few pages (Blue-Eyes White Dragon, Dark Magician, and a handful of others) and other editors picked it up from there and started adding it to random pages, against my repeated protestations. Development of the template itself is on hold until I finally get {{OCG-TCG set table}} deployable and all the kinks in {{Set}} worked out. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:00, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Should see that came... So you think it's NOT complete ready by now? --FredCat 20:03, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I know for a fact it isn't; there's at least one breaking change that will happen before it's finished, and I don't intend to update/fix 50 million pages when I make said change (this is the biggest reason I don't want people adding it to articles yet). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:05, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I see... Sorry that I copied it off your article and paste on couple new articles. What part of it is not covered yet? Bold vs. Italic? --FredCat 20:08, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

No, the styles are pretty well set. The breaking change is the addition of a required parameter for the language/region, which will probably follow the set parameter (and thus change the order of parameters). I also intend to have the template use {{Set}}, which may or may not break pages depending on how developed {{Set}} is at the time, and whether people continue to insist on applying {{Card table set}} to video game sets (I plan to have a separate template for those, maybe... I haven't put as much thought into this just yet). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:12, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Unofficial names/lores in alphabetical order. Noted. I'll switch them out when I happen to edit card articles with them. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:58, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

It's noted in the documentation ("Order of the languages generally doesn't matter, but for maintenance reasons, alphabetical sorting is preferred."), but I guess most people don't bother reading said documentation or aren't aware it's even there. =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:05, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me...

But I was wondering if you'd care to help with a template for the http://redapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity . Just one, somewhat like the one here, to use for cards.

Cheers, Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 02:43, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean a version of {{CardTable2}} for use on the Redapedia? I could probably get you set up with something, but I probably wouldn't start on it tonight, and I don't intend to get very involved in editing any additional wikis at this time. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:50, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, it would be good anytime. Thanks, Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 23:42, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Tornadurricanhatehell?

Thanks for fixing the english name I tried to move. It appeared that I have forgot about "Tornado" over "Hurricane". It was little ass-difficult for me to location the other article that related to the original one. --FredCat 17:06, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I've made mistakes like that when moving pages in the past, and move-spamming never really gets old. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:08, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I see... But lucky that you have free access to move ALL articles where I cannot do at same time. --FredCat 17:09, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I'm in favor of getting us set up so we can give any registered editor the ability to ignore the move throttle (and probably also move files) without having to make them admins. Delt and I (and maybe a few others) have discussed this once or twice, but nothing came of it. =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:12, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Official/Unofficial Source?

Do you think that shriek.twoday.net is unofficial source? This user agreed to it, as well as new user in the Revise Dragon's Talk Page. --FredCat 21:49, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

As far as I know, it's unofficial, but it's also quite reliable in my experience; it was being used for info on this wiki long before I was aware of it, too (the same goes for manjyomethunder.twoday.net and shriektcg.twoday.net). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Then why are this site depend on them, the "unofficial" sites? Those idiots should stop whine about it and just move on. --FredCat 21:54, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

As I said, even though they are unofficial, their information is usually quite accurate. However, your dispute seems to be over the translations they offer; it should be noted that we are not nearly as beholden to their translations as the other info they provide - it's not unusual for us to forgo a translation of theirs in favor of a translation we do ourselves. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:57, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

First translation, Second translation...?

Do you know how to put two translations in same article? I just noticed that "Pot of Duality" have two different Japan Translations... one being "Pot of Greediosity" from Shriek, while "Pot of Greed and Modesty" is from reality translation... Like with "alternate ATK", but I like to know for translation part only. --FredCat 22:38, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

There isn't really any way to do so; there's only one parameter in {{CardTable2}} for the translated Japanese name. For most cards, any possible second translation would simply be a variant of some sort for the first translation (as is the case with "Pot of Duality"'s possible translations). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:55, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Now there is indeed a way, it's |altname =. Cheese came to the rescue and shoved the name back in there in Revise Dragon. --FredCat 00:56, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's not 100% right, since it has the flag of England, meaning "English alternate". Technically, this is the Japanese/translation alternate, but it does still have more or less the same effect, I think. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:03, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

I know, but Burnpsy still refuse it and removed the name from one I was posting in. --FredCat 01:05, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Technically, the altname parameters (there are 3 of them, IIRC) are for alternate English names. In practice, though, I'm not sure how or where they are used (so I suppose they'd be a good future candidate for a tracking category), so using one for an alternate trans(liter)ation would be as good a use as any. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:44, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

wikimarkup characters and OCG-TCG card image

The Image policy states that wikimarkup characters are to be omitted. But it seems like the template can't remove them. ":" and ";" are the main ones, the rest shouldn't be needed in card names. e.g. File:No17ReviseDragonGENF-JP-UR.jpg says it needs to be moved to "File:Number17:LeviathDragonGENF-JP-UR.jpg" -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:57, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed it. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 08:56, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Card rulings and FredCat

Do you is a adm? i have one denounces about an employee who simply offended by my talk of trying to add a rule.

Below is the messages he sent me:

[snip]

I'm new here and tried to help and that's what I got back.

Plese make anything. —This unsigned comment was made by Jonjonex (talk • contribs) 14:15, May 20, 2011

Hello Jonjonex, and welcome to the wiki. =) Unfortunately, we take a pretty firm stance about the addition or changing of card rulings; every ruling needs to be sourced to Konami so that anyone can confirm it.

FredCat can be pretty brusque at times; English isn't his first language, and he tends to have a bit of a short fuse, so try not to let it get to you. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:33, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Also not only being attitude of what I am doing, I am also trying to protect the ruling without have it fill up with unproved lists of what Jonjon-Ex tried to put in. But indeed, I was little brusque from what Dino see. Repeat, I asked Jonjon to get the link to where he could find the list of ruling, and only link he gave was YouTube site, which confirmed to not be prove official. As of most game and computer hacking, YouTube is part of that kind of trouble that I don't honestly trust. And again, I only asked him to find the official site (which building by Konami itself) and get the exact quote of that ruling, which he would like to post in the ruling article. So I apologized for let a little smoke out of my exhaust. --FredCat 17:21, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Card Errata:Backs to the Wall

Is there any image exist for new lores? If not, then I should add "Future release" with backcard once you responded. --FredCat 11:35, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

I can't find any evidence that the card has ever been reprinted, so the only ways it could have been errata'd would be in a card ruling, or in a video game release. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:05, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ah well, if it is an errata, then I need an image to post there... And I noticed that the text favor was complete different from the current real-life card image I have seen, so it made me decide to put a delete mark on it. --FredCat 13:55, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Card Errata:Element Valkyrie

I was just wondering why the 1st Errata's cell is twice bigger than the original. Is it a bug with the tablor? Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 20:33, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

That's because of lore difference, since Original Lore had FIRE and WATER separate from main sentence while the Errata version had them joined together. It made the Errata part larger than Original. I have seen this many times before, so this ain't first time you had mentioned about this. --FredCat 20:38, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah I see.. I changed it for Card Errata:Element Doom. What should we choose? Big cell but sticking to the errata or choose the esthetic way? Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 20:57, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I personally prefer having cells of equal width, but inserting line breaks isn't the way to do it, especially when part of the errata'd version is removal of said breaks. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:37, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I have decided to following Dino's way, make both cells have their lengths equal. Also I put in the summary that would note to here for further knowledge and discussion. Due to respect, Equal sound better than "esthetic way". --FredCat 00:22, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, making the cells equal in width is the more aesthetic presentation... ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:26, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Guess I should throw out my cut tongue sooner. --FredCat 00:29, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blast Magician

What's wrong with this page lol? It's all messed up but I can't find the mistake I made! Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 06:42, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

It was your conversion of the page to use {{Ruby}} (or rather, SMW choking on the markup it generated - if the property value in question exceeds a certain length, SMW automatically abridges it by excising from the middle, and gives no regard to any HTML or XML tags that may be in the way) - this was a known bug with an older version of the template that generated more markup, but I didn't know there were any Japanese names with enough Ruby text to cause the problem with the template's current version. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:03, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I see, thanks for your help! Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 07:04, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

It is possible to switch off the factbox by default or on select pages, which would avoid this problem. All its information can still be found in the "Browse properties" link in the sidebar. The Wikia skin doesn't have the factbox (or browse link) either way. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:16, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

{{Hide Factbox}}? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:47, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Breaking news! Generation Force Release Date Announced!

Source: http://latinoamerica.devir.es/devir.php?contenido=520&cat=2 - Devir (Latinamerican Official distributor for Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG) has announced on its page Release date of Generation Force (GENF) for American Territory. The release will be in August 16, 2011. - It also announced the release date of Starter Deck 2011, but no info has been posted (link broken)

--Yoan.Yuki (talk • contribs) 22:29, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... Okay... Why, exactly, are you telling me? =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:43, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for my bad english. I will explain. Devir, the Authorized Official distributor for Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG Products for Latin America and Spain has revealed the official release date of Generation Force. The official release date for America is August 16, 2011 (For Europe, Devir has not confirmed anything about their release date) In the link provided is the source. It also informed about release of Starter Deck 2011, but no more info for now. --Yoan.Yuki (talk • contribs) 15:20, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox colours

We slightly touched on this before, but for a different reason. Would you be able to add more infobox colours? We currently only have two: grey (type-character) and blue (type-animanga) and use a number of different infoboxes. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:52, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any particular reason not to, but I'm not too good at picking good color schemes - do you have anything in mind?

More generally, I've never been particularly fond of the current system we have for infoboxes; the modularity is largely just added complexity considering our needs, and the lack of any sort of metatemplate means an inordinate amount of work, not just when creating new infoboxes, but even just when updating current ones. I'd like to replace our {{Infobox}} with Wikipedia's and start updating our templates to use it, and I could customize it some (both in how it works and how it's styled) if that's wanted. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:02, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

The primary and secondary colours at least. One dark and one light shade would be needed for each type-. If you did at least one or two to start with, it should be easy for anyone else to copy-paste and change colours.

Are you thinking of changing the appearance of the current infoboxes or just making the setup simpler? {{iBox}} is a series of metatemplates that can be used to make infoboxes like the current ones, but it's still different than the Wikipedia one. You can see examples of it being used on w:c:souleater:Template:Infobox/SoulEater/Episode and w:c:naruto:Template:Infobox/Jutsu. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:40, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I mean, any particular color systems for particular types of infoboxes. Beyong basic thematic elements, color schemes tend to be rather arbitrary, and if there's one thing I'm not good at, it's making up my mind in the absence of direction (as you can see from my ongoing template projects =D ). ;)

My proposal would change their appearance, yes, but we could always modify the styles (and, if necessary, {{Infobox}} itself) to get close to the current styles back, if that's what people would prefer. I've looked over the iBox templates a little bit, not enough to really understand how they look, but my impression thus far has been that they are somewhat more complicated than they need to be (but that may just be me). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:49, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Meh, the more I think about it, the better one colour for all infoboxes sounds. (Two is fine either.)

Would you like to create a sandbox example? -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:34, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Any such example would just be a copy of Wikipedia's infobox metatemplate. I could set up a sandbox example anyways if you're looking to experiment with the styles, though. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:33, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

? cards I listed all have "ス" in Jap "Kana". They're all pronounced as "S" not "TH"

I found two cards that have "su"(ス) in its name: "Clear Vice Dragon", "Neos"◄(ネオ(ス)), "Elemental Hero Plasma Vice"◄(マン= man), "Vice Berserker"◄(バイ(ス)), and "Vice Dragon". "su" is "s" not "th".--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 02:06, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

You can find quite a few more cards by sifting through a Google search for site:yugioh.wikia.com ス. And it isn't actually pronounced as "s", but as "su" (the only mora in Japanese that doesn't have a vowel sound would be ン, pronounced "n") - see wiktionary:ス. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 09:15, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Had to share this with someone

I just spent a half hour trying to figure out what I had screwed up when renaming some files at Card Gallery:Elemental HERO Thunder Giant, since two images were not showing up. Turns out the images weren't there to begin with, but someone put them there as placeholders. That worked fine when blank images displayed there, but now nothing displays. I am beyond pissed right now. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:53, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

No kidding; it really doesn't look at this point like Wikia is going to fix galleries not displaying placeholders for images that haven't been uploaded yet. =P 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:57, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

And the 'Add an image to this gallery' button is unnecessary. 1) (I think) it's the source of those resized images of the images we already have; then they are deleted 2) It doesn't display a notice; the Image Policy one at Special:Upload. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:04, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that button. With all these crap features, it's almost like Wikia is trying to get us to leave. =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:06, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Aren't we allowed to edit the global js pages to hide or display minor things like these by default? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:09, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think we'd have to ask Wikia about that. I'd rather not get in trouble if it turns out to be like picture attribution back before they relented on that. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:37, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

You can add hideaddbutton=true to the <gallery> tag to surpress the button. I only see the button used by people who end up making a mess of the gallery. e.g. trying to add an English gallery by clicking the button in the Japanese gallery. They can learn a lot more from seeing the edit page source. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:52, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Is that something we have to do from now on, adding hideaddbutton=true to every gallery? Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 11:57, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I certainly hope not. We should ask Wikia if we can suppress the button's display through CSS before running around and adding that to all the galleries (and with any luck, not only will they say "yes", but they'll have a way to shut the feature off for us server-side, so the button never even gets added to the page in the first place). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:17, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Synced pages

When you change any of the pages that are synced from Animepedia remember to list "yugioh" as an exclusion on the Animepedia version or make the changes there too if necessary. Otherwise AnimeBot could overwrite your changes in the future. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:29, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

All right, thanks for the pointer. I never remember that, so a reminder definitely helps. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:30, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Barely touched RFAs

Project:Requests for adminship/NOT FrogtheJam/1 and Project:Requests for adminship/BobaFett2/1 have been open for a while without much comments. Have you anything to add before they're closed? -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:55, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I have responded to BobaFett's, but didn't to Frog's, so thanks for draw my attention and I post my respond to latter's. I actually opposed to both, due to their bad experience (Boba's from early argue and fighting, Frog's under your state) --FredCat 21:44, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Not likely (though I'll have a look in a minute just to be sure)... There was a reason I never participated in RFAs on Wikipedia; to be honest, it's not the type of work I enjoy and I'm not generally well-suited to it. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:51, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

At least just post your name in either Support or Oppose - it's not like it would bite you just for a pick. Comment really don't required there. --FredCat 21:57, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

RFAs aren't really something that can be handled with a simple "support"/"oppose", though; especially for "oppose" !votes, you should leave some reasoning wo the candidate understands why you're opposing (and, hopefully, is able to use it to improve as an editor). Sometimes I don't really have much trouble coming up with my own reasoning, but most of the time it's a struggle for me to find something to say that isn't simply a rehash of someone else's !vote. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:02, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I see, but what up with "!" along the vote? --FredCat 22:03, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Another habit from my days on Wikipedia. Wikipedians (and, more generally, Wikimedians) subscribe to the philosophy that voting is evil, so stuff like RFAs and deletion discussions are not referred to as "votes". At the same time, though, "comment" doesn't really adequately describe when an editor supports or opposes in such discussions, so the terminology "!vote" came to be used instead - it is meant to be read "not vote" or "not-vote" (see also wikipedia:Wikipedia:Glossary#!vote). ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:42, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Quite an interesting way to slang the decline vote. Guess I would just stop pecking on your head for now, on this vote shit. --FredCat 22:48, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Just to be clear, !vote is used to describe opposes and supports, not just one or the other. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:53, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh whatever... --FredCat 22:54, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

That's okay. It just feels weird closing a request that I'm the only one to have commented on. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:58, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't blame you there. Maybe it'd help to advertise ongoing RFAs somehow? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:31, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Er, honor Admin... you're not only one anymore, as I was able to comment there. --FredCat 10:39, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hey

Check out my Talk Page, I had a thought and decided to change the "Notes", since of Silver Glaceon (talk • contribs) changed her own archive note. So I made two different Notes, one for action Talk Page and one for my Archived Articles. Just let me know what you think. If you see a problem, just let me know and I will try my best to get it fixing. --FredCat 19:03, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

I see, it's a nice way of keeping clutter down in a page's source. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:09, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, and do you think I should remove the Archive box above my box that held each "50" topics redirects? --FredCat 22:11, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

You mean the "Kitty's Other Comments" box that links to your archive pages? I don't see any reason to remove it, though if you want to, obviously you shouldn't let me stop you from doing so... ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:28, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I am referring to the first "yellow" box above my "Kitty's Other Comments" box... as it look like it's a yesterday news. --FredCat 22:45, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see anything above the Other Comments box... are you talking about the "FredCat's Rules" box below it? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:48, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re:"Duplicated/superceded file"

Yeah I'm really sorry, I really thought it was the same set I didn't really check the numbers. I will do add the link from now. I'm really really sorry about that. Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 16:22, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Archsupport in CardTable2

Could you add a sixth parameter for that? If a card supports all HEROes, it should be listed as such with "HERO" and all five sub-archetypes. I attempted to add it earlier today, but screwed it up in some way I can't figure out, then rollbacked by own edits. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:21, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

I saw that; you forgot a pair of opening braces (an easy enough mistake ;) ). Should be done now. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:28, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Template problems

What happened to some templates? If you look at any card gallery, the box titles always indicate something like that: {{#ask: Space Mambo |?English Name= }} and on Set pages, the cover cards, set name etc doesn't work properly since a few hours. Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 08:33, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

SMW and Negref are both down. I suspect I may have had a hand in this, as it follows from some extreme slowness the wiki experienced pretty much immediately after I made an edit to {{CardTable2}} (I suspect I actually enjoy causing such trouble =D ). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 08:51, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Cat's Ruling Article(s) have been updating

I am making sure if you could understand my words in this article. Just to see if they are clearly enough. I just adapted them to nearly modern words... --FredCat 10:12, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Looks reasonable to me. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:09, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Good to know that, and sorry for late respond. I sometimes wish that this site would just note me if someone respond to my topic, other than my talk page, that I have be updated. I got all my Ruling Articles updated already. --FredCat 22:56, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, I use email notifications. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:41, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Template:CardTable2

Try to avoid using switches if at all possible please. Switches + SMW equal really, really bad performance that threatens the wiki and network health. Can what you wish to be done occur without switch statements? It looked like it was working fine with just ifs? --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 20:56, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

I've been wondering how long it would take me to finally do something to get Wikia techs on my ass. =D I could replicate exactly what I was doing with #switches, using only #ifs, but it wouldn't be pretty. On the other hand, I'd have no problem for now, keeping to the older #if style until this problem can be fixed (and on that note, I'm curious as to just what unfortunate coding idiosyncrasy causes SMW being used in #switch outputs to cause fatal timeouts (is it some bug with SMW, ParserFunctions, or both? is it some weird PHP/MySQL thing? do I even have any idea what I'm talking about? =3 )). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:12, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

And, on a related note, now I know how to take down Wikia if I ever start feeling particularly sociopathic... >=D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:28, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

The switch parameter I believe is counted as an "expensive" parser function where as if is not. By itself, it's not great but it's not bad either until you start throwing DPL/SMW/Data, etc., etc,. on top of it. Part of the issue is the way we're caching queries, which is something we're going to try experimenting with in a few weeks. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 14:55, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I never would have thought #switch would be considered an expensive function... Here's hoping the caching experiments pan out, then. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:05, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blank kanji parameter tracking?

Is there a way to create a tracking category for card pages that have a "kanji" parameter that is blank? There are several pages like that I created, and was unable to find the kanji anywhere. I didn't feel like sitting there and finding each individual character from another card page, so I left them blank. I'd like to be able to request that someone add the kanji in, but I'd like to do it all at once. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:08, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that's easy enough to do. I've actually been thinking for a while about adding a tracking category for cards that don't have any Japanese name given at all; I think we'd be best with tracking categories for no Japanese name, blank "kanji", "kana", "jpname", and "phon" parameters, and a Japanese name but no romaji name (romaji name without Japanese name should be covered by the first one, I think). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:03, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

In addition to the name, can we have a tracking category for "japlore" as well? Blackwings0605 (talk) 06:39, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, definitely; that's one thing I've been intending to do for quite some time. I've never liked the parameter name, and intend to replace all instances of it with "jplore" (if no one beats me to it) and then remove it from {{CardTable2}}. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:23, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. "jplore" is definitely make more sense than the "japlore". Blackwings0605 (talk) 07:40, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

That, and I've never liked the abbreviation "jap" for "Japan[ese]", considering it was an (albeit mild) derogatory term used during WWII (AFAIK; that's how it's always seemed to me, at least). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:45, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Crap have been out forever

Honestly, that made me laughing. I am surprise that no one capture it till you did. --FredCat 01:36, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

You'll have to forgive me for having no idea which edit you might be referring to... =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:35, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

You know, ANPR card? When I came to see the Coffeedude's revive (undo van.) and saw your username just few edits before his, readed "ANPR have been out forever" in your summary. That's how I found it amuse. --FredCat 10:08, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Aah, you mean this edit... We really need to be able to automate the "Not Yet Released" value of the ocg/tcg parameters, so that 80-some-odd cards don't have to be updated four different times (only three if the card is introduced in the set, and thus is created with "ocg = Not Yet Released", if the creator knows to add that) specifically for that purpose (all that being said, I don't see any good way to do so). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:41, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, that's what I laughed at, you're pretty good with timing and place a word. ^_^ --FredCat 22:56, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, that's pretty tame compared to some of my edits; I love crafting situation-appropriate edit summaries for the lulz. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:50, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, you have a good control on your leach this time ^_^ --FredCat 00:43, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Deleting revisions

Deleting and selective restoring pages can cause the number of page views to reset and can't be undone. I suppose it doesn't matter too much for less popular articles like that, but for articles with a high number of page views, it might be better to request a RevisionDelete. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:05, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Or better yet, to just campaign for it to be enabled on this wiki (unless, of course, that's exactly what you meant). Actually, we really ought to have it enabled here anyways. As for resetting page views... meh, does it really matter all that much? I'm not saying we shouldn't be at least a bit worried about it, but it won't stop me from deleting a page to remove some particularly egregious vandalism from its history. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:48, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Another tracking parameter question

Would it be possible to create one that lists pages that use any of the anime/manga appearances templates, but that do not have an associated Card Appearances page? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:37, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Not currently (it is possible, but would first require a modification to {{Card table anime and manga appearances}}). On the other hand, it *would* be trivial to do the same check for the anime/manga appearances parameters, though. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:34, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Would changing the template mean having to change it on every page again? As for the parameters themselves, that doesn't particularly help me, to be honest. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:57, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

No, it would just be adding an invisible bit to the output (some class name or something; I'll have to do a bit of thinking on what the best thing to add would be) that {{CardTable2}} can then check for. I'll probably do this anyways, just so we can track pages with appearances parameters that don't use the templates yet. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:01, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome. Let me know when you get around to it. No rush, though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:06, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Grey Text

I am sure that he put it there just to be fair with all other "Dark Synchro" summon requirement. So that only "Number" monster can kill him, not original "Xyz" monsters. --FredCat 23:03, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know who put it there, or what explanation may have been offered. I'm working through my email backlog, and the diff link I clicked for Volcasaurus gave me a diff that skipped 20+ intermediate changes, including the one where the coloring was added. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:14, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ah well, I just give my logical of why it was there for. But I understand that you don't agree with it. --FredCat 23:22, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

See this, it also has grey sentence, so I think it's actually there just for Anime version only. As for OCG/TCG, they don't have that line, like "Dark Synchro" have transformed into Regular Synchro and keep their material/effect with slightly changes. --FredCat 23:54, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say I don't agree with it, merely that I don't know who added it or what reasoning they may have offered. ;) I also knew already that it was an anime-only effect (though it's not quite analogous to Synchros vs. Dark Synchros). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:57, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so may I revive that one you edited? --FredCat 00:00, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. If I feel like it, I may investigate to see who added the coloring in the first place. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:02, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

This user have added the information of that line being grey in first place. Hope it helps. --FredCat 00:13, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

So it was 002517... Interesting. I may ask him for his reasoning later. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:18, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yea, good luck lecture him out. :-) --FredCat 01:47, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Cardtable for another wiki

I dont usually visit here, but its something I've kinda needed for a while now.

While the wiki isn't quite as big as this one (Then again, most are'nt...), I have needed to experiment with changing the current table for a while now. While at times I have added new categories and such to it and expanded bits and pieces...I was never quite about to figure out how to force an image re-size on it.

While the wiki already uses a random assortment of images for card sizes...I try to get them around a certain area.

So basically my question was that if you had the time if you could take a look at Duel Masters CardTable2 and see if there was anything quick you would add to it.

Based on edits to the yu-gi-oh table, you seemed to be the guy to ask. Deltaneos had previously helped me to build the current table back in 08. Thanks for your time.Yami Michael (talk • contribs) 15:55, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Yami Michael, I've actually seen that table before. ;)

The simplest way would be to change {{#if: {{{image|}}} | [[Image:{{{image}}}]] | [[Image:Back.png]] }} to {{#if: {{{image|}}} | [[Image:{{{image}}}|{{ #if: {{{width|}}} | {{{width}}} | ### }}px]] | [[Image:Back.png]] }}.

If, however, you want to cap the width at a certain value, you'll need somewhat more complicated code: {{ #if: {{{width|}}} | {{ #ifexpr: {{{width}}} < ### | {{{width}}} | ### }} | ### }}.

And, if you want to catch bad values of "width", it gets a bit more complicated: {{ #if: {{{width|}}} | {{ #iferror: {{ #expr: +{{{width}}} | ### | {{ #ifexpr: {{{width}}} < ### | {{{width}}} | ### }} }} | ### }} (in all this code, keep in mind that you'll be replacing "###" with the width you want as default).

Hope this helps, and feel free to ask if you don't understand something or need more help! =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:22, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ill obviously having to keep testing it on different types of cards, but as stands it right now, the first simple fix seems to be handling the cards, without them seeming too blurry/stretched. Thanks for the help, much appreciated. Yami Michael (talk • contribs) 17:31, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:38, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Bakugan card template?

I was wondering if you could possibly help with another card template?

Cheers, Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 00:08, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Probably, but I need to know what you're wanting first. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:35, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about the delay, there's a bit of dispute over what to put on it. Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 01:03, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, just hit me up when you get it sorted. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:32, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

"um ... let's see ... we could have the card color, the attribute bonuses, the power level, the text on the card, and the card serial number" I'll fill you in on the one's you most likely don't know.

• Card color: Red Blue or Green for the ability set, and Gold Bronze and Silver for the Gates.
• Attribute bonuses: Six, name/color Pyrus/red, Aquos/blue, Subterra/Brown, Haos/White, Darkus/Blackish Purple, Ventus/Green.
• Power level. 1-3.

Sorry if this is asking alot. Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 01:25, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and on http://bakugan.wikia.com/wiki/Bakugan_Wiki. Thanks. Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 01:27, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Can you link me to any relevant discussion, and to some sample cards? Also, if someone could make a mockup of how you want the table to look, that would help a lot. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:07, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

http://bakugan.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Abce2/Card_Template_workings, Ability Card [[4]], and Gate Card [[5]]. I don't think anyone has enough experience to make a sample, though, and I've merely dappled in it, as I've never really needed to used it. Sorry, Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 02:24, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

All right, I'll see what I can do later (sometime in the next couple of days, I hope). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:40, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 03:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'm leaving tomorrow, so if you need anything, you should contact another admin. Cheers, Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 19:56, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Just letting you know that I haven't forgotten about this; Real Life™ has conspired against me the past couple of weeks, though, and I've been unable to sit down for a few hours uninterrupted to work on it. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:32, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Yo, man it's been like... forever. What's happening on wikia these days? Huajun Chen (talk • contribs) 15:35, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Same old same old, I suppose. =) TwoTailedFox reappeared recently after an almost two-year-long hiatus (almost, as in almost to-the-day o_O ), and Wikia is working on a new version of their visual editor... I'm not really sure what other info you might want to hear about, so if you have any specifics in mind, feel free to ask. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:36, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Template:Rename and Template:Rename media

I can't remember if there was any significant reason why these were given separate templates, given they can easily be merged with an ifeq {{NAMESPACE}}. Do you know of any reason or do you think we should merge them? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:02, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Not really; you were the one who created them both, so I just assumed that you had a good reason for it. ;) As for the merge itself, it could pretty easily be done as you say, but it won't be terribly elegant (unless I'm not seeing just how you're suggesting it be done ;) ); this shouldn't keep us from doing the merge, though, since I can look at doing a more graceful code merge any time. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:46, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking {{#ifeq: {{NAMESPACE}} | {{ns:4}} | Current contents of {{Rename media}} | Current contents of {{Rename}} }} or is that the messy version you were thinking of? -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:25, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

That's the messy version I was thinking of. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:38, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

CardTable2 in appearances pages.

Since we have the anime/manga lore parameters open by default in card articles now, I'd like to go ahead and remove all the CardTable2 transclusions from the Card Appearances pages. Any way you can create a tracking category or do some other wiki magic I have no knowledge of to make a list? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:37, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Even better than editing {{CardTable2}} and waiting for the job queue to clear: Special:WhatLinksHere lets you filter by namespace. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:15, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Perfect. Then I have my new repetitive task to do in between editing that requires conscious thought. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:43, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, happy to load you down with bot-style work help. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:39, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

May or Mei

Do you have the issue of Shonen Jump that this chapter appears in? If so, can you check if this character's name is romanised May or Mei? -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:15, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I do (should; it should be in the August '11 issue), and yes I can, though I'm not at home right now. --Dinoguy1000 (talk • contribs) as 208.124.90.208 (talk) 21:37, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

It's "Mei". =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:42, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Question

Can we put the "Bandai" version of any card in a archetype it belongs to like "B. Skull Dragon (Bandai)" in "Red-Eyes" archetype Wasn't (talk • contribs) 23:24, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks "Fredcat" I though I put 4 of "~~~~" I don't think anyone is upset.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 23:33, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I just said it to be casual. So just watch to your fingers' move; ok? --FredCat 23:40, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not sure whether we should or not (but if we do, we also need to do the same for Capsule Monsters, DDM, etc. versions of cards where they exist). None of these cards are playable in the current OCG/TCG, though, so I'm thinking probably not. Delt, do you have any thoughts (since I'm pretty sure you stalk my talk page ;) )? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:02, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Oh you and your petty sixth sense, Dino... --FredCat 01:13, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

He doesn't have six scene; he's only guessing. How can stalk talk page? Anime-only cards are also listed in any related archetype even they aren't in OCG/TCG like "Masked Knight" series so we could do the same with other "Yu-Gi-Oh!" games like what you mentioned: "DDM" The only side ▼side to this is space like with the "HERO" series.

Pretty easily, actually; it's just a matter of watching others' talk pages and occasionally commenting on discussions that you're not otherwise a part of. ;)

Anime-only (as well as manga-only and video game-only) cards are listed as parts of archetypes because, other than a far looser ruleset (at least for the anime and manga), there isn't a difference between these media and the actual OCG/TCG anything like the difference between the OCG/TCG and the other card games such as Bandai; most OCG/TCG cards are, in fact, first introduced in the anime, manga, or a video game. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:55, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. At this point, this talk page and Delt's may as well be extensions of the forum. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:57, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

"Forum:Talk to Dinoguy1000 and Deltaneos"? =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:00, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

So can we put the Bandai, DDM, in the archetype their related to even if....--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 21:19, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still leaning toward "no", but as I said above, I'm wanting to hear Delt's opinion first. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:40, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I would also say no. I can't think of a compelling reason to put them in. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:56, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Deltaneos is here or he might not reply to this.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 20:38, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I saw it. I just didn't have much to add when I first read it. Are there any archetypes within other games? There's "Hecate" in Bandai if that counts. It is possible to filter out other games when making list pages, but ideally if that can be avoided it should, because lighter SMW queries are less of a strain on Wikia's servers. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:06, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

lighter SMW queries?--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 02:08, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lighter SMW queries are one which strain servers less. Generally the less filters, the lighter the query. e.g. {{#ask: [[ATK::<3000]] }}, which gets a list of all monsters with less than 3000 ATK has one item. {{#ask: [[ATK::<3000]][[ATK::>2000]] }}, which gets all monsters with less than 3000 and greater than 2000 ATK has two items and is considered to be a heavier SMW query.

To the point, I've just noticed that Template:Archetype navbox has a section for Bandai cards. 'Thought I should mention it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:39, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

How many archetypes are there in the Bandai game (and are all of them documented here)? Since we've agreed not to add Bandai etc. cards to TCG/OCG archetypes, and since the Bandai game will never get new cards now, I think we might as well just use hardcoded navboxes for any Bandai archetypes, and remove that code from {{Archetype navbox}}. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:30, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

If you go by a really strict definition, you could say none. Possible archetypes within the Bandai game would be "Exodia", "Gate Guardian", "Harpie Lady", "Hecate" and maybe "Blue-Eyes". Archetypes from other games which have cards in Bandai include "Archfiend", "Dark Magician" and "Red-Eyes". -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:18, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Do you think any of them besides the Hecates are worth documenting? Should I go ahead and remove the Bandai support from {{Archetype navbox}}? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:53, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Need a little Housekeeping done.

Contributer is User:Macdaddyc

He started uploading batches of images with the filenames being just a string of numbers. I have already marked those files to be Merged with the proper files but cannot do that part myself (Merge is just my suggestion, if you feel deletion is proper course of action then go for it) He also needs to be sent to the corner to review the Image Naming Policies as he was also editing the YS11 Gallery to point to those files which would make it significantly harder for someone to find the proper file to update to. (That has also been corrected.)

• Additionally, This contributer has been around long enough to be more than aquainted with the image naming policies.

• I originally was going to send this to User:Bluedog187 since he has dealt with this contributer in the past but I noticed he is currently inactive just in time.

• BTW why does the system treat .jpg files as different from .JPG files (and I assume .png from .PNG)

Glittersword ^{Talk • Contributions} 00:16, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Glittersword, it would be better to use {{Rename media}} or {{OCG-TCG card image}} when tagging images to be renamed (currently, none of the suggested names have the "File:" prefix, so it's a bit harder to check for existing images). I'll try to have a look at these in the next few days, if no one else gets to them first. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:09, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

That might be so but I believe with the merge option he would still have credit for his contribution. With rename it would say that the page is already existing and I would think it would overwrite the history. Sorry I didn't think about adding in the "File:" portion I assumed that would be taken care of automatically like when the files are created to begin with. I will keep the OCG-TCG card image tag in mind in the future. Although I might not have considered it applicable since it wasn't going FROM a OCG name but I see now how it would have worked. Glittersword ^{Talk • Contributions} 16:33, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Renaming files always keeps their history; if there's already a file uploaded with the suggested file name, though, both files have to be reviewed to see if one is a duplicate or higher-quality or what-have-you, rather than just blindly moving the tagged file over the original.

{{Merge}} is meant to be used only on articles and such, not files, so it doesn't have any functionality to add a "File:" prefix when used on files. I'll probably fix that, though, since there may well be legitimate cases for merging files...

The "OCG-TCG" is just meant to show that the template is used for both OCG and TCG cards; it's not meant to imply anything about moving OCG images to TCG names or anything of the sort. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:51, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the clairfication, Would you mind giving me a bit of a walkthrough on how to make personal deck lists the proper way? I'm new to having an account although I have used YuGiOh wikia alot in the past.

Well, I don't do much with decks myself on here, but generally, you'll want to use {{Decklist}} for listing the cards in a deck; usage instructions can be found by following that link. If you're looking for opinions or improvement suggestions on decks, it's generally best to post them in Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Deck Help rather than your userspace. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:59, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Galleries

Hey there, nice to finally get to chat with you. Yeah your idea for streamlining the galleries with your design in your boilerplate would be wonderful. A question I have is how does it read in the info like card name, rarity, alt. name, etc. for the gallery. Would it read it from an existing list or from the card's specific page it self? Keep me informed on your progress! ^-^ Look234 (talk • contribs) 17:44, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering if something would be possible.

Is there a way for the gallery page for a card to be auto-created by the system using the information on the main mage and kept updated by the system? Sort of like triggering a bot for the page creation that looks at the info on the main page to extrapolate the proper file names to be used. Glittersword ^{Talk • Contributions} 21:34, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no, the Gallery extension doesn't work with wikimarkup in any way that would let us do so (and we currently don't put cards' set information into SMW properties, though that is definitely something I'm wanting to change). On the other hand, it may be possible to write a bot that could create Card Gallery pages, though that's well beyond my capabilities at this time. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:10, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

It just seems to that the more mundane and repetitive aspects that we can automate the better. It would make things more consistent and less error prone. Sure some of the more COMPLICATED cards might need a little personal intervention after the fact (After all this game seems to be expanding in seven directions at once sometimes.) we need to get and keep the actual skeleton under tight control. For example some gallery pages I know don't work anymore because they were created with an old Gallery format. Gallery changed but weeding out all of those old galleries is going to be a pain by hand. When we think they are all done one more will raise it's sneaky haid from out of its hidy-hole. Glittersword ^{Talk • Contributions} 15:55, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Believe me, I understand your reasoning for making the request; it's something I've thought about myself before. =) As I said above, though, with the way the software is currently designed, it would require a bot be programmed to do the work, and that is beyond my current skill level. =( 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:25, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Do we have anyone in-house with the skills or would we have to find someone from someplace like MediaWiki to help us?

Glittersword ^{Talk • Contributions} 16:00, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if any of our currently-active members have the necessary skills, but Dantman (talk • contribs) has historically run some fairly complicated bot tasks and is still active elsewhere on Wikia (and he does occasionally pop in here). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:44, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Missing page

"Armored Ninjitsu: Quick Teleport" has teleported off of the wiki. It was moved so many times that the actual card page appears to have vanished. Every variation of the name leads to redirect. I may just be missing the actual page, but I can't seem to find it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:41, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Which I found it oddly and amuse at same time, "Quick Teleport" just referring to it had been gone from this site. --FredCat 18:43, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Actually I found it. Nevermind. "Armored Ninjitsu Art: Quick Teleport". Once we get an actual page name, we need to fix the double redirects. But that may not happen yet, since there seems to be debate on whether its "Ninjitsu", "Ninjutsu" "Ninja Art", "Ninja Arts" or "Ninjitsu Art". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:45, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

All right, cool. Just for the record, Wiktionary claims ninjitsu to be a common misspelling of ninjutsu (this is supported by the romaji reading given on wiktionary:忍術), and if translated separately, the kanji "忍" and "法" could indeed result in the phrase "ninja art(s)", though "ninjutsu" seems by far the more common rendering. "Ninjitsu art" is just repetitive, since "jutsu" translates to "art". 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:56, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Mispelling or not there are already two existing cards which use "Ninjitsu", which makes me think we should be use "Ninjitsu" for these anime cards as well. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:12, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

And there don't seem to be any which use "ninjutsu" in their names (though there's at least one that uses that spelling in its lore). I also note that the two cards you pointed out use the repetitive "ninjitsu art". That's a pretty compelling argument in favor of using "Ninjitsu Art", though there's always the possibility that Konami will decide not to continue the trend started by UDE. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't even notice that part, actually. So then we should use "Ninjitsu Art" and use "Ninja Art" for the trans parameter. Also, keep in mind that per "Armored Ninjitsu Art: Gold Conversion", this is an archetype. Do the two existing Ninjitsu Art cards have the right kanji to be members? There's also no guarantee they'll release all these support cards. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:24, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me (I was going to argue in favor of just using "Ninjutsu" in the trans parameter, but "Ninja Art" sounds better considering the two-part names we're working with).

Yep, even the furigana matches up (between the card names, at least; it isn't clear whether Gold Conversion's effect explicitly requires certain furigana). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:44, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

It seems that Master D originally moved the articles and came to the same conclusion about what the name should be as we did. So that's all done and I created the archetype page. On a related note, maybe you can help me with the "Armored Ninjas". When I created the card articles for them, I did not add them to the "Ninja" archetype, as their names did not appear to me to contain the right characters. Apparently someone else did. I think they ARE members, considering the effects of the some of the "Ninjitsu Art" cards Yamikawa played, but I cannot figure out WHY they are members based on the characters. I would like to have that information before creating the archetype page. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:34, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

"Ninja" support cards call for cards with the text "忍（にん）者（じゃ）" in their Japanese card names, meaning the "Armored Ninja" monsters receive support from these cards and are therefore also part of the "Ninja" archetype (I can't say anything on whether their association with certain characters would or would not make them thematic members of the archetype, though). The "Ninjitsu Art" cards, on the other hand, are only "Ninja" support cards, because their names do not contain "忍（にん）者（じゃ）". 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:12, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. To clarify, I meant "Japanese text" when I said "characters". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:20, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. ;) *wanders off to start a forum topic on Ruby text in card lores* 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:39, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Insane, drool, fake draw picture

Would you like to check this out? --FredCat 20:55, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The image looks real enough to me (at least, I can't spot any jarring discrepancies, and the artwork is of the same quality as that of other cards and anime images)... Do you know for a fact it's a fan drawing? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:16, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thats' what I thought, and other user "LastMinute" or some odd name like that just post that picture in Gallery, so I take it as A-Okay! So for now, what about Shooting Q. Dragon? --FredCat 23:17, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, LastMinute (talk • contribs) added it to the gallery (they do a lot of work with Card Galleries); that doesn't necessarily mean the picture is fine, but absent any reason to think otherwise, there's no reason not to use it. ;)

Shooting Quasar Dragon? What seems to be the problem there? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:43, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Try look at the history of the mentioned name and the one with rest of other JUMP copies, they both were revived by myself. --FredCat 23:46, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Falzar got that image. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:14, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

If you're talking about File:No 12 Armed Ninja - Crimson Shadow.png, then it's from http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/yugioh-zexal/

-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:49, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's the one, thanks for identifying the source. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:14, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

imo, it ought to be moved to a proper name; there are other images on that site that someone might want to upload as well. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:45, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well, any admin can rename images. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:01, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

The thing is, there is no obvious suitable name. File:No12ArmedNinjaCrimsonShadow-JP-??????-NC.png -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:16, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

I would say maybe "File:No12ArmedNinjaCrimsonShadow-JP-ZX-NC.png"? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:19, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Am I missing something here? How is there not a suitable name? It's a non-card image from the Japanese version of the ZEXAL anime. Since "No." is "Number:" in the TCG and we know that "Armed Ninja" is not correct, the file name should be "File:Number12ArmoredNinjaCrimsonShadow-JP-Anime-ZX-NC.png". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:37, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

The main idea was, that image was not shown in the actual anime, so it shouldn't have "-Anime". -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 04:57, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

One more thing - Unrelated to above discussion

I really do want to properly learn the ins and outs of this Wiki but there are so many pages that refer to previous pages and so on and so forth. Where would you suggest I begin studying? Glittersword ^{Talk • Contributions} 20:58, July 26, 2011

Dude, please be sure to click four tildes before you kicked this page up. --FredCat 20:59, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I normally do. I am human, and I forgot. Sorry. Glittersword ^{Talk • Contributions} 17:00, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

That's a very large topic; I'm really not sure where to start on such a request. It'd help me a lot if you could point to a more specific area or topic you're wanting to learn about. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:21, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Read these. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 23:22, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Those don't help, I am talking about things like template pages that are full of {{{{}}}} that are parsed by the system from other pages or by other pages.

For example from the GalleryHeader Template

{{IfSemantics|{{Cardname|{{ #if: {{{1|}}} | {{{1}}} | {{PAGENAME}} }}|{{ #ifeq: {{Cardname|{{ #if: {{{1|}}} | {{{1}}} | {{PAGENAME}} }}|{{{lang}}}}}||en|{{{lang}}}}}}}|{{PAGENAME}}}}</big><br/>''({{ #if: {{{set|}}} | {{{set}}} | {{ #switch: {{{lang}}}

if I can't understand where everything is coming and going from I can not Manually Parse it to see really what it is saying.

I want to start at the deepest level and work my way up. I don't want to just play around and screw things up. The problem is there are so many files and some are from other places like MediaWiki that to me it just looks like a rat's nest. What is important?, what is critical? what pages are referencing obsolete remnants? I may only have the skills right now to do maintenance issues but that doesn't mean I don't WANT to learn more.

BTW: is there any way to mark out a line as a remark so it isn't parsed?

Glittersword ^{Talk • Contributions} 17:00, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, our templates take advantage of lots of really advanced functionality so that we can do some really nifty things with them. =)

First and foremost, keep in mind that you can play around to your heart's content on Project:Sandbox, Template:Sandbox (create it if you want to use it ;) ), and in your own userspace; edits made to these places won't have a direct impact on any other part of the site, so you can make whatever changes you'd like to help you get the hang of things.

Next, to do much good editing most of our templates, you'll need to understand at minimum how to use ParserFunctions. We also make very heavy use of StringFunctions and Semantic MediaWiki, and you should always keep a link to mw:Help:Magic words for reference.

This all, of course, assumes that you already have a reasonable grasp on how templates and transclusion work.

This is a lot to work through, I know, but don't give up, and don't think you have to know everything - I've been at this for almost 5 years, and there's still stuff that surprises me or that I have to look up (certainly with StringFunctions and SMW, which I didn't work with until I became really active here in 2009 or so (has it really been that long? o_O ), but also with ParserFunctions and even working with template parameters and transclusion). If you need help understanding something, just ask - there's no shame in it, and maybe in the process of helping you, I can learn something myself. =)

Now, about marking lines so they're not parsed: As you probably saw me do above, one way to do so is with the <nowiki/> tag (the <pre/> tag around it is just for presentation) - this prevents anything from being parsed, and can be used on individual characters or whole pages. Another method, which I used earlier in this paragraph, is to escape individual characters using HTML character entity references - e.g. to escape a "<" (less-than sign), you would write < in the page's source: "<" (if you want to instead display the actual escape code, you replace the "&" with &: "&" (and yes, this means you can end up with ridiculous chains of escape codes: < =D ))

After all this, if there's anything specific you need help with, just ask (yep, I already said that, but it never hurts to repeat yourself IMHO ;) ). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:18, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

(I was edit conflict'd, so some of this will be a repeat of what Dinoguy has already said.)

If you put <nowiki> before the syntax and </nowiki> after it, it won't get parsed. e.g. <nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> displays as "{{PAGENAME}}", not the name of the page.

If you want to get started on learning template stuff, there's a few basic things you can practice on your other wiki:

• Adding {{Example}} to a page will transclude (almost) everything from the page "Template:Example".
• When you use {{Example|x=Hello}}, it will transclude Template:Example and replace every instance of "{{{x}}}" with "Hello".
• {{#if: {{{x|}}} | Text to display if "x=something" is used | Text to display if x is empty or unused }} can be put in "Template:Example". If you use {{Example|x=abc}} on another page it will display as 'Text to display if "x=something" is used' since "x=something" was used. If you use {{Example}} or {{Example|x=}} it will display as 'Text to display if x is empty or unused', since x was empty or unused.

I'm not very good at explaining stuff to people who are totally new to it, so you can see mw:Help:Templates and mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions for hopefully better explanations and more information. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:35, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

SMW off for a while

When a number of infobox templates were changed on the site a few hours ago, it flooded the caches on our network and caused massive load issues. I have turned off SMW on the site for at least the next 18 hours to let it sync back up correctly. I would highly recommend you make any further changes - either adding on or rolling back - to infoboxes now because it will avoid further issues tomorrow. --daNASCAT http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 21:01, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure it was edits to infobox templates, and that it was on this wiki that the edits occurred? Looking at Special:RecentChanges, the only infobox edits in the past week I'm seeing are the ones I just got done making (I started these after SMW was shut off, apparently, given that I was no longer getting timeouts on previews/saves, but I didn't actually see your comment until now - how's that for serendipity? =D ). On the other hand, I could see my earlier edits to {{Unofficial name/category}} being enough to flood the caches, but I was experiencing timeouts before then as well. The only other possibility I can think of, then, would be that my edits to {{CardTable2}} a couple of days ago are the real, underlying cause, unless this was indeed actually caused by edits on another wiki.

All that said, thanks for the heads-up! =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:38, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved both branches of this conversation to daNASCAT's talk page. It's probably more convenient for him if we continue the discussion there. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:48, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Cool, I probably should have done as much myself. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:50, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

ergent news

Someone took out archetypes. If you go to http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Power etc. you don't...--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 00:59, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

That's because SMW was shut off. The archetype navboxes should be back up sometime later today/tomorrow (depending on your time zone). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:58, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

It's still not there.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 19:51, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Nope. DaNASCAT said that he'd try to get it re-enabled for us by yesterday, but that evidently didn't pan out. All we can do is wait for further messages from him, or for SMW to just start working again. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:07, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I think it'll take a long time to turn on the archetype. Is yours on?--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 23:14, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

No, SMW is still down. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:16, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

It's back now.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 23:23, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Boilerplate

Kind of yeah, I like this aesthetic and I love when every pages are identical! Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 03:10, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Action 5

Can you check out the funny thing with "Action" link in "Super Polymerization"? I put it in and it bring out red link. --FredCat 17:24, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

It was also a redlink in Aged Goblin's edit. The page simply hasn't been created yet. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:30, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

So may I create it? Or you think it's just ridiculous to be there? --FredCat 17:33, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think it would be better to have "Sends from [the/your/your opponent's] field to the owner's Graveyard" (or even possibly just omit "owner's"), since cards always go to their owner's Graveyard upon being destroyed, sent to the Graveyard, etc. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:38, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Which is referring to Action 1, right? It had no limitation of which going where. --FredCat 17:40, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

No, it would refer to "action3" and "action4" - "Sends from your field to your Graveyard" should be "Sends from your field to Graveyard", and "Sends from your opponent's field to your opponent's Graveyard" should be "Sends from your opponent's field to Graveyard". As I said, cards that go to the Graveyard are placed in their owner's Graveyard, so specifying the target Graveyard would just mean four different actions, which would always have to be used together. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:55, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, should scratch "your" word out of those two. Let's hit them up. --FredCat 17:56, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

That article is would only apply to anime cards. There are zero situations in the TCG where this would happen. Also, the few anime cards that would have that effect have been released without it already, so that parameter is completely uneeded. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:05, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Royal Cards

I am surprise that it still living with speedy delete mark you left like 2-3 months ago. I am curious why you considered it delete, though I edit it later on. --FredCat 10:55, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

I really just tagged it in response to Furuzuki's message on the talk page... I think, ultimately, what happens to it should be determined by the outcome of Forum:Archetype definition (again)#Naming. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:59, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

*CRASHED*

*unmounted my rocket ship* Sorry about broke the wall here - I have to invite you to the Forum - Massive Mult-Idea and tell our good, French, friend about what he thought for rest of "Main Article" of the cards. --FredCat 18:58, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looking at it now. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:32, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

"Relationship"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/relationship :( I know that it sound oddly by the first look, but I meant... why does Yusei have a "relationship" with Jack if they don't... well, you know? --FredCat 13:15, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

The first definition is the one you need to be paying attention to here: "a connection, association, or involvement". ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 13:17, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I just wanna know because one time when I mentioned "Relationship" in the journal (on other site), and had other person's name in same line; many users just exploded and gave me a day of shit because of "sexual" part. >_> So this is the reason why I came here to be sure if I got it right. --FredCat 13:18, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, for many people "relationship" does have sexual connotations (probably because increasingly fewer people know how to keep it in their pants in their own relationships =P ), so it probably wasn't the ideal choice of vocabulary in that situation, but it isn't wrong by any means (regardless of the conclusions other people want to jump to). =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 13:21, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

So I am just surround with bunch of idiots? --FredCat 13:23, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well, this is the internet, so that is, unfortunately, a strong possibility. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 13:24, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

At least I am in, currently, a good hand. --FredCat 13:27, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Forum:Decks for Free Archive Numbers

So I created a new Archive for Forum:Decks for free!, and Archive 10 went under Archive 1, is there a way to fix this? Falzer kinda explained it to me, because 1 comes before 2, and said you might be able to help more. Thank You. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 14:41, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Could you reply on my talk page? ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 14:42, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Looking over the templates used, I'm not sure I'd be able to fix this without rewriting {{ArchiveList}} (maybe there's some feature of DPL that would allow the correct ordering, but I'm not very familiar with it at all and so can't say; Deltaneos may know something I don't in this case, though). Your other option would be to rename archives 1 through 9 to have leading zeroes (Archive1 --> Archive01, etc.). I'm replying on both of our talk pages so I can keep the whole discussion together; feel free to reply wherever since your talk page will be on my watchlist. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:42, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I went ahead and asked D-Neos. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 04:02, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't recommend renaming the pages.

The simplest fix I'm aware of is changing the ordermethod to "created", which would order the archives by the date they were created. But if any discussion page for example creates "Archive 2" before "Archive 1", which isn't as unlikely as it sounds, the order would be messed-up there. Although the likelihood of that is probably less than the likelihood of a page having at least ten archives.You could also create a manual list that you update yourself every time you create a new archive. We've all done that for our own talk pages. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:23, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I believe all the Archives were created in order, so the first option D-Neos listed would probably be the best, and would the fix also apply to future archives, like Archive 11,12, etc.? If not I can just start on creating a new Archive System, like the one on my talk page. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 04:02, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Right, I'd look into setting DPL to use page creation time instead first. Generally, if I say something and Delt corrects me, you should ignore whatever I said because I probably didn't know what the hell I was talking about in the first place. =D Now, once this discussion has settled down across all the talk pages it's taken place on, I get to stitch it together so it's all in one place, *somewhere*... This is why I prefer keeping comments and their replies all on the same page. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:38, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, bad news, D-Neos and Dinoguy, Resk decided to go ahead and rename the Archives, so yeah. I told him I was asking you about the issue and didn't tell him not to mess with the Archives, so what are our new options? Can his renaming be undone? ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 17:51, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well, he's only moved Archive1 and Archive10 so far. I'm not sure if that'd affect DPL's sort-by-created option, though, and it definitely wouldn't have any effect on a manually-maintained archive list. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:57, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Could, we just change them back? And if the DPL's sort-by created option doesn't work I can just make a manual Archive, and just a quick question do I have follow everything Fred's Article states?, or could I just use,

{{Navbox with columns
|name = User:<YourScreenNameHere>/Archives
|title = Whatever
|above = [[User talk:<YourScreenNameHere>|Whatever]]
|fullwidth = true
}}

, replacing the User name parts with Forum:Decks for Free, directly on the page, instead of creating a new page, then linking it to the Decks for Free page? I hope you both understand what I'm asking, if not then I'll try to rephrase this. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 01:08, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, though I'd recommend some code more along the lines of:

{{Navbox with columns
|navbar = off
|title = Whatever
|fullwidth = true
...
}}

「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:19, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thank You, I'll start on the manual version, then, I'll also rename the pages back. Thank You both. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 01:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Dinoguy, could you help me move the Archive 001 and 010 back to just Archive 1 and 10? I can't rename them, because they already exist. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 01:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Also why would I turn the Navbar off? Is it so that no one else can edit it? ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 01:39, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

And I think I need a clear answer, can I just place the code directly onto the Decks For Free page, or do I need to create new page, then insert the code into that new page, I'm following Fred's Article so its a little confusing. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 01:41, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

So I just placed the code directly on the Forum:Decks for free! Page under a new section, why is the gaps between the Archives, so large? ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 02:17, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind to pretty much everything, I got my questions answered, and there shouldn't be problems from placing the Navbox code directly on the page, correct? ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 02:32, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Whether you want the navbar on or off depends on whether you keep the archive box on the DFF page or put it on its own page, and that depends on whether you want the archive box just on the main DFF page or whether you also want it on all of the archive pages: if you want it on all the pages, it's far easier to keep everything updated if the box has its own page, since updating that one page will also update all the pages transcluding it. In that case, the navbar just serves as a simple way to have access to the box's page to make updates - if the box is placed directly on the DFF page, the navbar would serve no purpose. (I hope that all made sense; I kind of rambled through that and maybe didn't explain myself all that well)

I'll get the archives renamed in a second, if no one else got them already. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:01, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Gallery Connect Name Conflict

So not just SMW is down, Gallery's Name reference (in language) also failed to connect to correct languages, like for Germany Painful Return --FredCat 01:11, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, because that functionality relies on SMW. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:15, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

That's interesting... at least I don't discover this alone; though I am slower. --FredCat 01:19, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

If you're curious, you can look at the code for {{GalleryHeader}} {{Cardname}}. Any time a template uses #ask, #show, or #arraymap (much to my disappointment, since #arraymap is an astoundingly useful parser function quite apart from SMW), that bit of the template relies on SMW, and will break when SMW goes down unless a fallback is in place (e.g. with {{IfSemantics}} or {{SMWF}}). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:38, August 8, 2011

I see, and you forgot something... --FredCat 14:50, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Forgot? Nah, I don't know what you're talking about... ;D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:45, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I meant for your own signature, but just now I see you put it to evade being not aware of it. --FredCat 17:55, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, my comment was just for lulz. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:03, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Trishula

Not sure if seriously, Pojo leader who rated this dragon in their "Card of the Day" declared "Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier" 'She', so is that ok if I threw "Female" in Trishula's misc? I only wish to ask you about it. --FredCat 15:55, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

"Trishula" has always struck me as a female name (not sure why, exactly; that's just how it sounds to me). The real question is whether it's referred to as female in the anime/manga/any video games (this may be easier to establish from the Japanese version, since Japanese uses gender-differentiated pronouns). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:47, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

So the name is only evidence right now, right? --FredCat 17:54, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

And not much evidence at that. ;) Looking at the real-life trishula doesn't help clarify matters, either (though if I had to assign a gender to a trident, it would have to be "male"). =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:01, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Em... that's weapon you're referring to... Yea, Tri-Pointy spear thingy. --FredCat 18:03, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Template Problem

Just check out the latest topic in my Current Talk Page, and let's see what wrong with his own Archive parts. It's just something I cannot understand alone. --FredCat 22:55, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I fixed it for him. For some reason, the archives were using the code from User:Dark Ace SP/Archives, instead of just transcluding it. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Curse of the Circle Name/Lore

If Name is official, what about it Lore? Is that because there are no English Image of this card? --FredCat 20:10, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, I just didn't bother to check. Besides which, it's not that unusual for a card's English name to be confirmed as official before its English lore is. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:21, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

*groan* Well, if English is official, then entire details are becoming official. --FredCat 22:22, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Monobook

Is it working properly for you right now? It's completely borked on my end. I actually have to switch to Wikia skin *rolls eyes* Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:16, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks fine for me. Are you seeing stuff like this, perchance (if not, could you upload a screenshot)? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:21, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Gee, hope that your cup ain't break along with them, Coffee-Dude. --FredCat 18:24, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

No, that wasn't it. Now it seems to working again though. Nevermind. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:27, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Look like the coffee did the trick... Making you hyperaction for few minutes. --FredCat 18:31, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

All right, if it happens again, try to grab a screenshot. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:32, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Patrol

Didn't want to clog up the forum discussion with this and don't want to comment there until I have this answered. What is autopatrolled? I've seen the logs for a few times when messing around with general logs, but haven't been able to figure out what it's used for. Oddly enough, I never heard about it when I was on Wikipedia. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:22, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

"Autopatrol" is a user right which automatically marks a given editor's new pages as patrolled (search for "autopatrol" on Special:ListGroupRights), which in turn prevents those pages from being listed on Special:NewPages, once you click "Hide patrolled edits" there. Special:NewPages, in turn, lists every page that has recently been created on the wiki (except for files, which are covered by Special:NewFiles, and thus allows admins a quick way to look through new pages for stuff that needs cleaned up or just deleted. When you click on a page from Special:NewPages (if you're an administrator), you are taken to that page, and a "mark this page as patrolled" link appears in the bottom-right corner that otherwise does not appear.

Unfortunately, because of the way patrolling and Special:NewPages works, the special page is the only way to check for unpatrolled pages and to mark them as patrolled (not that this really has much to do with anything; I just figured it'd be a logical question for you to ask ;) ).

Some other information can be found at meta:Help:Patrolled edit, though note that Wikia does not seem to have $wgUseRCPatrol set to "true", so parts about patrolling individual edits, or patrolling pages from RecentChanges, don't apply here. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:39, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

listify

Can you see why this isn't working? <ul class="listify">{{Special:Prefixindex/Project:Requests for adminship/BobaFett2/}}</ul> should appear as an unordered list. Using Chrome's "inspect element", none of the styles from the class are being applied. Doing the whole thing manually works:

<ul>
 <table style="display:block">
  <tr style="display:block">
   <td style="display:list-item">[[Project:Requests for adminship/BobaFett2/1]]</td>
   <td style="display:list-item">[[Project:Requests for adminship/BobaFett2/2]]</td>
  </tr>
 </table>
</ul>

I have cleared my browser's cache multiple times to no avail. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:08, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure myself... It works fine on Wikipedia, both on Monobook and Vector, but here... =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:00, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I guess the cache just needed a bit more time to catch up. It's working now. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:45, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

All right, cool. Where're you wanting to use it at? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:59, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

On the RFA templates to list all of a candidate's nominations. 'Should be used in way that still works when they're transcluded on Project:Requests for adminship, meaning they can't be too reliant on things like {{BASEPAGENAME}}. Ideally it shouldn't rely on SMW, but can if necessary. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:05, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think there's any way to do that the way we currently have the RFA stuff coded, but it should be pretty straightforward with a single tweak - we just need to get the candidate's name hardcoded into a parameter somewhere (basically, we're going for the same thing {{Navbox}} does with its "name" parameter). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:45, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

help to move?

Set Card Galleries:Revivial of Black Demon's Dragon (OCG-JP) to Set Card Galleries:Revival of Black Demon's Dragon (OCG-JP). thanks -Lpoi (talk • contribs) 06:06, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Got it. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:08, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Feminine on Male Cards

I am wondering why you decided to spamming those female misc on some cards that are already discussing to be MALE in first place? --FredCat 00:14, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'm looking through the cards listed on an old version of the list (shortly before most of the manually-maintained sections were replaced with SMW queries) for cards listed but not tagged as female. If I come across such a card, and it is not obviously male/I don't recall it being specifically discussed, I tag it as female. My basic reasoning is, it's easier for someone to notice it in the list and ask about it or point out a mistaken tagging then it is to try and remember that it's possibly female but not tagged. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:18, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

"Future Samurai" is referring as male due to "square chin" or whatever D-Neos called it. Therefore I reverted your edit and put in latest image. --FredCat 00:22, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that. FS is actually fairly androgynous in appearance (similar to Jain), so a quick overview like I did would miss the chin, etc. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:25, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Er, I don't recall saying anything about square chins or the gender of "Future Samurai". What conversation are you referring to? -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:40, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ain't you, I was referring to other user (D-Neos, not Dino-Guy) Here's a proof! --FredCat 00:44, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Out of sheer curiosity...

...why are you adding the female parameter to non-monster cards. I honestly never would have thought of doing so and always assumed it was exclusively for monsters. I don't have a problem with you adding them to Spells and Traps but it really doesn't make sense to me. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:30, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, List of female cards has listed non-Monster Cards for longer than I've been involved in it. Looking quickly through its history, it seems the first Spell and Trap Cards were added to it in May 2007, so this actually predates the majority of my involvement on the whole wiki. Besides that, non-Monster Cards often feature characters and monsters that are never featured on Monster Cards, and many of these are female; there's little point in noting female monsters on Monster Cards but not on Spell and Trap Cards, IMHO. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:38, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Like a hand in some bug-squishing killer "Spell Card"? Yea, I gotta agree with you, Phillip. --FredCat 15:22, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose it just seems strange to me. When you put "female" on a monster, it means the monster is female. Doing the same on Spells and Traps implies that the Spell/Trap itself is female, not what happens to be in the image with what may or may not be the Spell/Trap. I guess it's the parameter name that makes it murky for me. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:02, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose that Phillip is referring to the image of the card, not the card itself. --FredCat 16:04, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I know. I'm saying the parameter name makes no sense if that's the case. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:15, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Before I simplified the headers, they all contained the phrase "Female-related", if thinking about it in that way helps any. Another thing to consider is that there are a number of Monster Cards featuring multiple monsters; even if only one or two of these is female, the card itself is still tagged as female. If it weren't for the fact that it could cause some potential ambiguity itself, I would probably suggest we start using "Female-related" as the parameter value. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:32, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Female cards

Every cards have a Categories under it. Click the Categories and it will show you a list of cards in the category. For example, if I found a card and it has the Category:Duel Monsters cards. I click it, it show me the list of cards that is under this categories. So far, the Category:Duel Monsters cards have 7,949 cards and it will take time to go through each one just to found a female cards. WinterNightmare (talk • contribs) 20:59, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Second series cards

Is there a way to make the second series cards list? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:31, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Believe it or not, there were none tagged as such - it was the result of some faulty logic in {{CardTable2}} (I'd actually noticed it before and was suspicious of it, but had never taken the time to make sure it really was broken). I fixed it, so cards should start listing there. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:41, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Move

Could you rename the following image? Current name is incorrect. --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 20:21, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

File:BoltageSummon-JP-Anime-ZX.png → File:VoltageSummon-JP-Anime-ZX.png

Done. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:23, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --The Goblin (talk • contribs) 20:25, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Toei

• Firstly, could you please archive your talk page because I can't even type on it without my computer dragging, JEEZ.
  • Secondly, what is the proper file name for cards from the first YGO anime? The Toei one, I mean. Huajun Chen (talk • contribs) 00:19, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Finally, someone whine about the long-overweight page... --FredCat 00:28, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, yes, I suppose it is about time I archived again, isn't it? =D If it helps any, you can avoid having to edit an entire talk page when adding a section by clicking the "leave message" tab next to the "edit" tab if you use the Monobook skin (unfortunately, the Wikia skin doesn't seem to have a built-in method to add a new section to talk pages, but you can click the big "Leave me a message" text at the bottom of the Welcome box at the top of this page to add a new section here (some other users have similar links on their own talk pages, as well)).

According to the image policy, Toei anime images should have "Toei" in their name, e.g. File:BlueEyesWhiteDragon-JP-Anime-Toei.jpg. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:36, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

... you want me to whine about the absurdity of your signature's HTML script too? Because that thing looks freakin' intimidating.

Thanks a bunch x a million. Huajun Chen (talk • contribs) 00:53, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

It would be much cleaner, but Wikia doesn't like broken markup nearly as much as Wikipedia. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:17, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Misunderstand User

It seemed like Pokeswap (talk • contribs) really not understand the work of Wikia itself. I tried to put some sense in him and he just continued on and on. --FredCat 23:14, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Chatmod

Thanks for pointing that out, I wasn't aware of the fact that admins got already that parameter and I wanted to test it on the chat. By the way, we definitely need to open a new thread about naming chatmod. We had a few RFA specifically about that already... Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 14:56, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you can see what user rights any particular user group has from Special:ListGroupRights. ;)

We've had some discussion about it already; the main problem, I think, is that none of the really regular contributors are on chat often enough to know which chat regulars are trustworthy with the tool (if a regular contributor who is on chat all the time is reading this, you should totally call me out on this assumption =D ), so any such requests ultimately come down to "whose word do we trust more". (this isn't meant as an argument against a request for chatmod process, of course; just an observation on one of the difficulties we may have with it) At this point, we just need someone to take the initiative and spend the time setting the process up. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:23, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Still Don't Understand

Shonen Jump only prints official stuff. Perhaps it's not officially released by Konami but I'm pretty sure that it will be official sooner or later. Why not just say that? BF2 Talk Deck Guides 22:38, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

See my comment in the forum (basically: better safe than sorry). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:43, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Moving Questions

I am wondering why two Admins (Deus and Falzar FZ) commented on my talk page about me moving the questions from Discussion Talk page into Forum. They made it sound like it's illegal thing to do, though the Admin Cheesedude permission me to do it alright. I know that's little oddly for me to questioning you here because I am not sure which Forum that this part of discussion was going to be in... --FredCat 14:32, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reading Falzar's comment, it sounds like he's primarily concerned with the anon or editor being able to find the question after it's been moved, which is indeed an important consideration.

• Moving the comment to the editor's talk page pretty much guarantees that they'll see the answer in most cases, but isn't terribly useful for other people who may have the same question and who actually know enough to check the forum.
• Moving the topic to the forum, on the other hand, does pretty much the opposite, if you don't do much of anything beyond that.
• Simply replacing the question with a talkheader and a message that the forum should be used for questions doesn't help anybody; certainly not the person who asked the question, and not others with the same question.

So, the best method is a combination: if you're not aware of a forum discussion that asks and answers the same question, move the question to the forum (and answer it, if you want to and know the answer), change the new redirect to a "stub" talk page with a talkheader and a note to post questions in the forum, and leave a note on the talk page of the person who posted the question explaining that you moved their question, with a link to its new location, and explain that in the future, they should direct further questions of the same type to the forum, since they're far more likely to be seen by someone who knows the answer there, and can help other users out after the fact (and remember to be friendly! the person just came here with an earnest question; they probably didn't know about our policies, and are far more likely to come back for other questions and whatnot if their first experience is a friendly, positive one). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:13, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

I did that last suggest twice, ever informed them that I moved them. And the one Falzar jumped on me, was not exist at that time I "removed" the question from Talk Page - I did learning some lesson from the past. So if either Admin came on me once more; I will just post up the new line in my Talk Page that could talk about my responsible. --FredCat 18:23, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to point them here, as well. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:39, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Done that part, so I should go and fishing Cheese with his favorite coffee cup... --FredCat 18:45, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

It's about time he finally realized his mistake... --FredCat 01:32, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Editing the list of Dragons

This list has both "Poke Dra" and "Poki Draco" listed, but they're the same card. Could you fix this please?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Dragon-Type_monsters Golden Key (talk • contribs) 01:13, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

How about now, did that fix it? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:19, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Quick image policy things.

I thought it was agreed at one point that anime card articles that have no real or video game equivalent should use the Japanese image, since they have actual information on them. Not sure why I'm not putting this on the talk page for the image policy, but meh. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:15, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

That's possible; I hardly remember every single conversation I've participated in on here, much less all that have happened. If you're sure of this, go ahead and change the image policy, and if you can find the discussion you're thinking of, link me to it. =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:36, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

I believe it was something Falzar said in an edit summary at one point or another, and I just assumed I'd missed the conversation. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 12:16, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

I remember seeing that in someone's edit summary before.

Then after that I mentioned it a few times in some of my own ones.

(The search is taking longer than I thought it would so I'll just leave a message first.)

-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:46, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

^ For some reason that took a few mins to save... and it saved twice even though I clicked once...

Here it is. Falzar FZ (talk • contribs) 13:02, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

That's good enough for me, unless Delt randomly pops by and says otherwise. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:10, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Poll

Is there a way to track who voted on the categories on the Poll code, <poll></poll>? I ask because I help BF2 on the Weekly Deck Competition, and we kinda want to know if there's a way to block a username from voting, so people can't vote for themselves, but just for a specific forum post. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 03:31, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

No, unfortunately there isn't.

If you need it to be like that, why not do this instead of a poll? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:36, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

How would a bot help me? I know they are used to perform repetitive tasks, but I'm also not sure how to operate one as well. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 12:58, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

I am referring to how he made the poll on that page. Under the headings Support and Oppose, with users signing where they vote. Instead of using that automatically generated poll. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:29, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Negative Level

Do you know the reason why cards with Negative Level (e.g: Dark Diviner) fail to display their level correctly in the card table like other cards? Blackwings0605 (talk) 06:25, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Because of some miscoding going on around the {{{level}}} handling in {{CardTable2}}, or possibly something in {{Repeat}} (either way, he root cause is insufficient testing on my part). Remind me later and I'll look into it; it's really late here and in a few minutes I'm getting a shower and going to bed. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:58, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Bump? --FredCat 13:07, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

A random guess on the problem would be that repeat doesn't handle negative numbers, and that there was no absolute value function of any kind being used on it to tell it to show 5 images instead of... -5... error. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:33, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

That's almost definitely what the problem is. I could've sworn I specifically tested for using negative values with the template, but maybe not... I'm gonna check and fix the problem in a second anyways, so it doesn't really matter much. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:04, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

There, fixed. Easy enough. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:06, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Flags

Why only a flag? In the section in English there are more flags Set Card Galleries:Ancient Sanctuary (TCG-EN-1E) Set Card Galleries:Ancient Sanctuary (TCG-SP-1E)--Mahad mx (talk • contribs) 03:59, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I asked Deltaneos about the flags back when I was working on my boilerplate; he said we really only want one flag per usage (this is actually how the flags had been getting used for a while, so it was more an affirmation of current practices then a reversal). Other than that, though, it comes down to a question of "what flags would be included" - for any given set with a European English release, for instance, can you give a full, correct list of the countries it was officially distributed in? Same for worldwide English sets. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 13:30, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Kickbanned

Dude I'm the one usually having to keep the chat calm while you admins are away. Then you kick me? dude you need to learn about a situation before you overreact. Whatever I'm done with this. All day i have to deal with the little kids fighting with each other and asking advice and saying their random ass crap, and you know i bother keeping the one or two dudes who are stuck in chat alone company during the day. but now i'm done with you guys, because on every occasion you people start crap with each other. I'm done. —This unsigned comment was made by FreelancerRaiko (talk • contribs) 01:56, September 12, 2011

I kickbanned you for your use of profanity, though I would've been more than justified in kickbanning you for never seeming to do anything but cause strife in chat. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:58, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting question

Category:Cards that need Card Images has a problem. There are some listed cards that don't and NEVER will have card images, unless circumstances change. They have very slim chances of ever being used in the anime/manga again and even slimmer chances of actually being made. Anyway to suppress an auto-added category? The word "need" implies that a a card image exists and that we don't have it. In this case, we don't have it because it's impossible to have one. Maybe a separate category for such cards? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:53, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

An override would be pretty easy, I think (and, in a certain sense, one is already possible: simply specify an image); perhaps for such cards, we should be using a particular image other than a card backing (though you've got me on what such image might consist of)? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:13, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Image policy

Do we? I had thought the "hierarchy" was real card > video game > anime/manga. Which I don't agree with, since most video game images don't have the whole card. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:35, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea; I simply wrote what I had the impression of. If card>VG>series is indeed how we do it, though, now would be as good a time as any to change it, since I don't agree with that either. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:44, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. Well, I guess we'll wait for Delt then. XD. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 06:45, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

New Problem from the Feline

Hey, since you're a Temple Editor - so that could mean you could know how to managing the Deck Table, right? I have a problem in my own article - it's "Crystal Hamon's" Deck table that seemed to including each other of topics below the one it is current sitting. I put in "Nowiki" link to prevent it from happening so I could let you to check it out - This article is what you should look for. If you see the problem, just lemme know immediate. --FredCat 19:59, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I fixed it for you - the problem was one of the spans; instead of properly closing it with </span>, you accidentally omitted the slash, which opened another span. From there, it was a matter of the parser choking on it, and brokenness ensued. =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:06, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

D'oh! No wonder why I screw that one up. Thank you for cover it up :-) --FredCat 20:08, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

No problem; I've learned the hard way to pay attention to closing tags. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:10, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Translators list

You've III listed as an English and Spanish translator here. I assume this is a mistake or has he made Spanish translations? I don't know what to change it to myself. He sometimes translates Japanese to English, but I don't think he's ever translated any language to Japanese, since he only posts official Japanese material. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:37, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, so I have... I added him in March, but have no idea which edits might've led me to do so. I'll remove "Spanish", then. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:41, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

He translated the Spanish name. Blackwings0605 (talk) 00:48, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

The Spanish name was already there. He just moved the parameter up a few lines. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:49, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

I have seen him adding a couple of Spanish names since this was asked, unless I'm crazy/seeing things. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:09, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

<_<

>_> <_> Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:10, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Too much sugar in your coffee again? --FredCat 00:16, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, just this... =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:18, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also, if it's any consolation, I'm going to be getting email-bombed for hours with notifications on pages added to the new tracking/maintenance categories (though principally Category:Card table transclusions with outdated appearances parameters). =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:21, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Meh, the code looks cleaner now. I'm still annoyed though. Also, what tracking cats did you add? And for the record, I use Equal in my coffee. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:23, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I would've set it up like that from the very start, but the idea (and the implementation) didn't occur to me until just a few weeks ago (though I have had an inkling of something like it for a month or so, which is why I'd stopped updating card pages to use the appearances templates as I came across them). On the upside, it'll be almost embarrassingly easy to get my bot set up to strip the parameter input down to just the needed comma-delimited list. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:28, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

And the tracking categories (I swear, I didn't forget! =D ):

• Category:Card table transclusions with outdated appearances parameters
• Category:Card table parameter tracking (name)
• Category:Card table parameter tracking (cardgame)
• Category:Card table parameter tracking (cardgame2)
• Category:Card table parameter tracking (anime_ddm)
• Category:Card table parameter tracking (manga_ddm)

Mostly tracking use of "rare" parameters, as you can see. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:32, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Then why did your eyes set up like that? (Wall-Eyes) --FredCat 00:30, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I should have said something you then. I always wondered why it wasn't like that to begin with. I just assumed that it couldn't be, since I don't know nearly as much about wikicode as I should. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:33, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I would say I should have thought of it then, but I didn't know enough about StringFunctions and #arraymap at the time to know it was possible (if you recall, I originally designed the appearances templates to require one episode number per parameter, and only later updated it to require one parameter containing a list of any number of episode numbers, after learning more about SF and #AM). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:36, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't remember that at all. Let's never mention it again, yes? Anyway, I'll start using the new system as I edit then. If you change it again, give me some warning if you can. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:48, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah right. The only way it could be simplified at this point is if I figured out how to get templates to watch/read episodes/chapters and identify cards, and automatically list them. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:52, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I know. I was still in sarcasm mode in that point. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:35, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Should be me, because I dyed his coffee with teabags. --FredCat 03:50, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Tea is fine. I like tea. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:04, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I was in full-on sarcasm mode then too. Guess I should've used a http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Irony_mark_full.svg/6px-Irony_mark_full.svg.png. =D

Also, tea is awesome, I really should drink more of it. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:13, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Unofficial names

Do you have a list of languages for which a card name would always be unofficial? Meaning that YGO products have not been released in that language? For that matter, are there any? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:01, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Not really... I should probably make a list of languages with official distribution of one or more YGO media one of these days, though. AFAIK, only those languages with official media licenses are actually shown in CardTable2, though I don't know if it displays all such languages; anything that only gets stuffed in an SMW property *should* be unofficial no matter what.

When tagging a name as unofficial, if it's something like Turkish, I'll usually tag whatever I come across. For stuff like Greek and Thai, I'll tag it if I notice the given name getting changed, though this isn't perfect since card names are sometimes changed even within licensed media (several examples of this can be found on the various pages in User:Montechristo95's userspace). If a given media has not yet had an official English release, I'll usually tag everything but Japanese as unofficial, since it is (should be) incredibly rare for e.g. an episode/chapter to be released in French or German or something before its English release.

Any other questions? =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:12, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting.

Yeah, if the English name is unofficial, everything else pretty much is in almost any case.

Who would win a fight? Mega Man or Bomberman? I mean, none for now. That's what I meant. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 20:42, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno, I've never played much Mega Man, and I don't think I've ever played Bomberman. Yeah, Delt may be able to tell you a bit more than I could. You could also look at the lists of licensors on the anime series pages, though I have no idea how accurate those actually are. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:53, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Dumb User

Check his history of why he just being dumb. Time to pull a Ban Hammer out of crevice we never want to know and smacking him down. --FredCat 20:45, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I've blocked him for two hours; let me know if he starts up again after the block expires. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:56, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, remind YamiWheeler too, because he joined the force with me to falcon punch him back. --FredCat 20:58, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh btw, that user you locked up not so long ago is possible to be dead by the blow on the head. --FredCat 23:26, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

*break down the wall*

*opened the door and let you come in before back out to the article that required your helps to fixing and locking up* --FredCat 23:25, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I got an email notification for it. I'll check it in a minute. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:27, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

So I am an "Email Notification"? --FredCat 23:30, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, the page is on my watchlist (along with all the other Forbidden/Limited list pages), so when it got edited a bit ago, I got an email notification. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:36, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Good to know, if I had been one, then I should find the little clip and removed it from my body. --FredCat 23:40, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

To be fair, though, I do also get an email notification every time my talk page here is edited... ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:10, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

That's good that only Admin can get them - it irritated me so much. --FredCat 00:16, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, anyone can get such notifications; it depends on how you have your email preferences set. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:21, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Quick Question

Forum:Some new usergroups, is there any word if you guys are ok with people being given admin ship rights to move pages and stuff? I just want to know, so I could possibly ask for that right. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 04:20, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

That's not what that forum discussion is about; rather, it's asking if there's support amongst editors here to request for the creation of new user groups from Wikia staff. One of these groups (the one with the most support, and the best chance of being added) is a "mover" group, which would be able to move pages without a move throttle, move files, and suppress the creation of redirects when moving stuff. However, we haven't actually gotten around to requesting the group, so we're not yet able to grant it to anyone. You're more than welcome to request adminship anyways, but I don't think you're very likely to get it just to be able to move files and not have a move throttle, unless our request (when it's made) is explicitly turned down by Wikia staff. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:54, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, alright. Well thanks for your answers. ---Dark Ace SP™ (Talk) 02:19, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Keeping NC images

I recall a discussion where it was agreed that we shouldn't delete NC images just because we have the image of the card. Do you remember where it is? PoirotH (talk • contribs) seems to want to have a word about it. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:49, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I want to say it was somewhere in the forum, but I can't remember for sure (I also want to say that I was the one who specifically said "let's keep them"... hmm). =/ I think one of us needs to start a discussion index (in the project namespace?) so we can reference these types of discussions in the future without having to look everywhere for them... 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:57, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I actually had thoughts of suggesting to make a forum sticky which lists any major changes and any updates to how things work here. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 07:12, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to start it (unless you just want to punt the job back-and-forth with me until Delt/Cheesedude/Poirot/Huajun/Fredcat/whoever gets fed up and shouts at us/starts it themselves... =D ). =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:31, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

tehe. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:37, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Discussions took place here and here. I'm in favor of keeping NC images in the galleries regardless. Even if we don't do that, the NC images themselves should be retained. They work well for episode/chapter article images.

Thread is a good idea. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:33, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Chatmod nomination

Hello Dinoguy i am very privalaged for you to nominate me as a chat moderator. --EgyptianDuelist0000 (talk • contribs) 18:06, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Eh? Where/when did I do that? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:21, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

At Forum:Chat mods. You mentioned his name there as a possible candidate. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:25, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw/remembered that after posting my reply here. =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:34, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Custom Chat Messages.

Hey Dino, You Know Special:AllMessages. Well I Found Out A Way To Make The Chat Even Better! Message Me, So I Can Tell Ya How Dark Paladin Attack!22:37, September 24, 2011 (UTC).

Arch-Related or -Support?

He's changing them all to "Archsupport" instead of "Archrelated" so that's true or not? If not, then comment him and get him fixing them back to normal. --FredCat 16:51, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Spot-checking a few of their edits suggests that they have a reasonable grasp on the distinction between archmember/support/related... If you spot individual edits where they get it wrong, you should go ahead and fix it for them, and if I somehow missed the bulk of such edits, it may be worth (calmly! ;) ) explaining to them the difference here. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:47, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

How...

are random IPs banning people from chat? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:50, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

lol That was me, and yeah, IDK how it happened, but I laughed when I saw that. I was trying to find out how to work the banning/unbanning of users (a friend, YamiWheeler/Tamaru, from the Wikia's IRC channel allowed me to use him as a guinea pig), and saw that there was a change in the user's rights log. But yeah, it's funny how I was a random IP. DemonGodAsura (talk • contribs) 03:20, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

They don't seem to be random, it's the mod who is banning them. I think it's just be a bug; so you can probably avoid it by using Special:UserRights instead of the shortcut on the chat. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:24, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I've got a hold of it now. There wasn't a user manual when I was given the role, nor was there a "shortcut" to unban someone. DemonGodAsura (talk • contribs) 03:27, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

As was pointed out above, it's a known bug (or perhaps more a shortcoming of the feature). If you look at the banning rationale, you'll note that the kickbanner is named as the person to ask for more info; if it bugs you that much, you should use Special:UserRights instead as Falzar mentioned. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:12, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

No, it doesn't bother me. I was just curious. I've never used that feature at all since I almost never go into chat, so I wasn't aware of the bug. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:30, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia Chat

Hey! Long time no see there. Is there anything that can be done about the glitchiness of the Wikia chat function? Sometimes, whatever I type doesn't make it to the chat. DemonGodAsura (talk • contribs) 01:40, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hey DGA, unfortunately there's nothing we can do on our end to improve chat latency; ultimately it all comes down to Wikia themselves. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:48, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

"Fire Dragon"

Well, forgive me for being ass on my "NG" grammar. But at least be grateful that I put it up for the request on the talk page. So is the name acceptable afterall? --FredCat 01:41, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to talk down to you or anything like that. ;) Unfortunately, I have no way of checking the name myself, so I can't say one way or another. =/ 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:54, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

The card has no name. Only shown in that one opening alongside "Water Dragon". "Fire Dragon" seems like a logical name, but it's by no means official (for the record, most people do call it "Fire Dragon"). Never appeared because the writers dropped the ball with Misawa. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:58, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

new template Template:Archetype card list

hey, just saw the new template you created, and i think it's not so bad. However, just wondering why does "support cards" and "anti-support cards" need to bracketed? also, is anti-support cards really neccessary, like how often do does an archetype have anti-supports?

another thing, can you make a 2nd template, labelling "archetype card list2", if there are other cards that are only in Anime and/or Manga? in that template, there can be two card lists: one for OCG/TCG; another one for AniManEx (Anime/Manga). then, you can change the codes of the first template to have only a single list of cards for those that are only in OCG/TCG. 70.79.73.202 (talk) 05:37, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I've been planning something like it for a while, and intend to create similar templates for some of the other groups of card lists (primarily Attributes and Types, but also at least some of the various card/effect property lists). =)

I've linked Support card and Anti-support card in the template because I feel that they should have their own articles, briefly describing what each term means and (especially in the case of support cards, which we use to decide whether a given thematic group of cards is an archetype or just a series) its significance. Thinking about it a bit more, though, we may prefer to have slightly more generic support and anti-support articles... Hmm...

Anti-support cards for archetypes are pretty rare, but they are out there. Both the suppor and anti-support list links are hidden behind #ifexist switches in the template, though, which means they shouldn't be added unless the lists themselves exist (under very specific titles, but that's really rather beside the point).

Unfortunately, because of how various properites are currently assigned in {{CardTable2}}, trying to filter lists into sublists of official-only and animanga-only cards means we end up missing other cards (for instance, neither of these will catch various tokens or video game-exclusive cards). In addition, the construct you've been using, [[Class 1::!Official]], won't work as desired because of limitations inherent to SMW - while this does indeed prevent any cards with the value "Official" in Property:Class 1 from being listed, it also only lists cards that have "Class 1" set to something - and since, as I said before, property value assignment in CardTable2 is messy at best, it means there are plenty of cards with no value at all in "Class 1", and these aren't listed if the query uses [[Class 1::!Official]].

Sorry for the length and technicality of this reply; if you need me to go back and explain anything more simply, please just ask. =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:48, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Lock

Can you lock up Legendary Collection 2: The Duel Academy Years? There is so much vandalism and it is a problems. WinterNightmare (talk • contribs) 00:00, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

It's just been a few edits by one editor so far, not really that bad. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:02, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Random

MekHunterG5:YOU my friend LIE YOU HAVE 11,818 edits lol.--MekHunterG5 (talk • contribs) 00:18, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... okay? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:29, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

HA now 11,827 edits I LIE!--MekHunterG5 (talk • contribs) 23:25, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, is this about the discrepancy between the number of edits I have according to the count next to my avatar versus that that I have below the banners on my userpage? Both numbers are determined automatically, but each one uses a different counting method, meaning they don't match up in some cases. There's nothing I can do about it. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:32, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Cards in other Languages

Since you seem to be checking if names are official in other languages, this might be useful for you. Click. It's a file I extracted from WC11 that contains the names and lores (and a bunch of other stuff that I haven't figured out yet) of JP, EN, DE, FR, IT, SP and KR cards that are in that game (languages listed are in order of ID when using AR codes to change the language, 22126491 000000xx, where JP = 00, EN = 01, etc; though I haven't checked if the order is the same as that text file). You may need to change your text editors encoding if you are interested in trying to extract the data (I for one, can't get KR out of it). -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:31, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Did you just try to open the whole file in a text editor? Looking at it in a hex editor, it's quite obviously an archive file, but I'm not sure where the file sizes/offsets are stored, so I can't write an extraction script for it yet. Other than that, thanks for the file; once we can get everything extracted, it should allow us to fill in a lot of gaps, really really quickly. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:14, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

For the record, what I've gotten of the format is at http://wiki.xentax.com/index.php/Yu-Gi-Oh!_5D%27s_World_Championship_2011:_Over_the_Nexus_PAC . 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:01, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hex Workshop and Notepad++ both gave me the same overall content, ++ just didn't include the raw Hexadecimal next to it.

Also ++ could read JP whereas Hex Workshop did not.

At best, I can get squares to appear in place of Korean characters in ++.

-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:43, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

I've used Hex Workshop in the past, years ago, but last I knew it was shareware, and I don't have the money to pay for a license. Personally, I use XVI32, which is free and pretty good in its own right, but it's also got more than its fair share of shortcomings and, despite being freeware, is closed-source. I'm actually rather surprised no one yet seems to have had any interest in making an open-source hex editor of the same relative quality as Notepad++ (which I use as well ;) ) is for text editors...

While we've got the comparison going, you pointed out that Hex Workshop didn't display the kanji/kana; this is expected, since hex editors display files byte-by-byte - they make no effort whatsoever to worry about whether a given file is (likely to be) a text file, or what encoding it's probably using.

I didn't try opening the archive in Notepad++ until just now. Experimenting a bit and searching on Google shows most of the text files to be encoded using various ANSI/Windows code pages; the Hangul displays just fine if you set the encoding to Windows 949 (Encoding --> Character sets --> Korean --> Windows 949); Korean card effects can be found around line 6431. The oddball is the Japanese text, which is encoded in Shift-JIS, though you probably already knew as much. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:30, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Arial Unicode MS (and a few other) fonts on Korean --> Windows 949 is what gives me the squares I mentioned.

It's the only language I can't actually see characters of on editors. Copying Korean names from here, and pasting it in Notepad++ Find, brings me to lines ~64xx+, while highlighting a bunch of squares, so I know they're there and can check if that particular name is correct. Else, I could just use a code to change the in-game language and read it off there. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:43, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Got it, it was because I didn't tick Enable Global Font, apparently the last font I was using supported each of those including JP, but not including KR, which made me forget about the extra setting. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:03, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, that's cool to hear (that sounds like a setting that shouldn't really be a setting, but whatever). I may request having someone look at the archive, to see if anyone wants to write an extraction script for it, so we can work with the much-more-manageable individual files rather than having to fight the whole archive. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:09, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Chat mod request

Hello. Blackwing Armor Master and I would like to be chat mods.--ThunderCats, Ho! (talk • contribs) 01:14, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

You should ask in Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki Community Discussion instead of here. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:08, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

OCG-only

I noticed the the "Crashbug" monsters are still listed under their "Bugman" names on the OCG-Only list. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 03:29, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

The issue seems to be for a big chunk of cards, if their unofficial names are still listed. I'm now guessing this is a well known flaw with charts. It'd take a while to go through each individual card, probably why its been left as is for now. Sorry. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 03:42, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

It's because of SMW's caching, which is separate from the normal article cache (meaning ordinary actions, such as "action=purge" or even editing the page, may not force it to update). Basically, we have to wait until SMW decides to update its caches, which can take anywhere from minutes to months. =/ 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:54, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Just edited the redirect link and saved it without any changes.

They are removed from the list now. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:57, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

I've never thought of null-editing the redirects; I'll have to keep that in mind. Thanks! =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:09, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hello from Makoton

Hello im makoton and the message ya left me ディノ奴千？！i know what it means it means"one thousand fellow Dino? !"im japanese!!!!!!OK —This unsigned comment was made by Makoton (talk • contribs) 06:03, October 17, 2011

Hello dinoguy ya said "If there's anything you'd like help with, please let me know."im gettin bored of this wikia so can you give me some kinda work to do on yugioh wikia? I f there is just give me a message.:) —This unsigned comment was made by Makoton (talk • contribs) 06:19, October 17, 2011

EgyptianDuelist bot request

i want a bot. --ThunderCats, Ho! (talk • contribs) 21:11, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

What for? Do you know how to run a bot? If you have a clear idea of what you want to do with a bot and how to set up and use one, you should start a discussion in Forum:Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki Community Discussion to see if the wider community is willing to trust you with one yet. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:09, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Can you get me a bot? Thanks. --My Name Is Rikoshet, I'ma Kill You! (talk • contribs) 18:58, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

No, I can't. There is bot software for MediaWiki freely available if you know where to look. Again, though, I ask, what do you need a bot for? Do you know how to use one? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:04, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I need ba bot because i'm gonna be doing school and homework. plus its easy. --My Name Is Rikoshet, I'ma Kill You! (talk • contribs) 21:43, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

That still doesn't tell me anything. What exactly do you need the bot for? What do you intend to do with it? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:52, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I intend to have it do tedious edits for me. I also intend to get a bot so it can patrol the chat. --My Name Is Rikoshet, I'ma Kill You! (talk • contribs) 21:55, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I am sure that Riko meant by keep the chatroom cover with Bot as to keep it from having a spammer and violence users and so. If he didn't get what I am pointing at, then he can explain it from there. --FredCat 22:05, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

As I said above, any bot would need wider community approval. That being said, for now it would be better that you request a current bot op to handle tedious edits that you don't want to do; Deltaneos, Falzar FZ, and myself all operate bots. In addition, it would be far more difficult to use a bot to patrol the chat than you think; there's a good reason you don't already see chat-patrolling bots everywhere. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:18, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ah. But i still need the bot to make tedious edits for me. --My Name Is Rikoshet, I'ma Kill You! (talk • contribs) 23:27, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

"As I said above, any bot would need wider community approval. That being said, for now it would be better that you request a current bot op to handle tedious edits that you don't want to do; Deltaneos, Falzar FZ, and myself all operate bots." 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:34, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Not quite

Dark Synchro is now listed on every Decklist that uses the new format. See Kakeru Kunitachi and Shobee Yuatsu for examples. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:28, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, got it fixed for you now. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:31, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

*headdesk* Thank you. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 16:37, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Don't beat yourself up too much, that same omission has bit me more times then I care to count. You should try debugging it when you have about three different parameters nested inside each other, in a few parser functions, without any whitespace (something along the lines of {{#if:{{{whatever|}}}|{{ucfirst:{{lc:{{{whatever|{{{foo|{{{bar|baz}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}). Now there's a headache. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:01, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Characters Template

Hi Dinoguy. I noticed that almost a year ago you were planning to work on updating the Characters template. When that's completed, will the Yu-Gi-Oh! GX anime characters, Yu-Gi-Oh! GX manga characters, and Yu-Gi-Oh! R Characters template boxes at the bottom of characters' pages all match the other template boxes? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 15:02, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I was, and yes they will. =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:04, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Weird question

Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's - Episode 046 is using slanted quotations. I've tried copying the text and using find and replace in Word, Wordpad and Notepad. None of them work. Know of any way to get them to use regular quotations without changing each one individually? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:08, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Notepad's Find-and-Replace function works fine for me on Windows 7... Maybe it has issues with extended Unicode on earlier MS systems?

You should be able to use Notepad++ to do the replaces if nothing else works for you. If you know how to use regexes and are willing to try that route, the opening curly double-quote can be matched via \u201c, and the closing one via \u201d (you can match the curly single quotes via \u2018 and \u2019). I will add all these replaces to the rules on my bot, so that whenever I run it again it'll correct that stuff. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:53, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Cover up

Thank you for put my page back to it original version. I don't understand what up with that user who deleted emptied my page like that? --FredCat 09:55, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Probably a throwaway account created by a vandal you've interacted with (e.g. by reverting or something) in the past. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:34, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hm... if you're referring to IP codes, then maybe but for that account name; no - it's first time I met that person since that time I post the comment here. He's just assjerk. --FredCat 17:02, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

No, that account could easily have been registered by someone you interacted with before. There's nothing preventing people from editing as an IP and then registering an account, or even registering and editing with multiple accounts. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:20, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

I see... Didn't you know that you can just block IP number, make it lock-up from be able to create more account from there? --FredCat 18:44, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but that's imperfect (that is, there are ways around it), and there's no way to definitively know what IP(s) an account has been used from without Checkuser rights. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:10, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

FredCat's Judge Lists

If you have click my letter d in my user name (in case you knew about it already), you will see that I get them all fixing up comfortable and less repeat (same result but different cards, so grouped them up) to make them easier to understand and read. That unfortunate cost me 9 articles to save 15% of time to read them of furious and ragequit. --FredCat 01:25, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Cool, good work! =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:28, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, took me whole day with a massive headache in the morning. --FredCat 01:33, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

I know what that's like; back when I was doing my massive cleanup/rewrite of {{CardTable2}}, whenever I'd finish an editing session I would literally be physically disoriented (and hungry!). =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:36, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ah gee, but at this time, it's actually fastest I ever done in a while - edited more than 10 articles in single day (nearly hour) with loadcrap of information changes must be intense... I worked it on and off (had to help my parents with their conflict problems) --FredCat 01:39, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

So I see! Breaks aren't necessarily bad (and indeed, it's not unusual for me to take a break when I'm working on a template and hit something I can't quite wrap my head around at the time; the break helps me clear my head and get my thoughts in order (and sometimes even lets me think of better ways to code the template!)). =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:43, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Break ain't only thing I did, I also took time to swallowing the medicine that can tough my brain back to normal and dissolving the rest of trouble. TBH, I jumped back and forth between two areas on Notepad to find where they were such to be. --FredCat 02:00, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Card Trivia:The Lady in Wight - "Lady-in-Waiting"?

Hello, I saw that you changed "Lady-in-Waiting" into "Ladies-in-Waiting" on the following page: Card Trivia:The Lady in Wight. Why exactly do you feel that this is not the correct spelling? The supplied link is a link to Wikipedia that has the title as such. Please do not be offended by this, I am just trying to understand. --LordGeovanni- (Talk To Me) *Kupo* 02:52, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

"Lady-in-waiting" is a noun, which means that it needs to be pluralized when used in the specific manner it's used on the trivia page. The plural form of "lady-in-waiting" is "ladies-in-waiting", as can be seen in the Wikipedia article. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:56, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry, I still do not understand your reasoning. Why does the card "The Lady in Wight" (as a singular "Lady") need to be compared to "Ladies-in-Waiting" when there is only one "Lady" in both the card name and the card's picture? --LordGeovanni- (Talk To Me) *Kupo* 03:24, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Because the card is being compared to the general concept of ladies-in-waiting, not to any one particular lady-in-waiting. "Lady-in-waiting" refers to an entire group of women (it was an informal title), most of whom have little else in common, as opposed to any particular person. If it helps any, imagine a line of trivia for the card "Dandylion" that reads, "This card's name is a reference to dandelions and lions." 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:45, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Patrician of Darkness

I had just checking the Talk Page of that monster... You know, the Zombie Dude that look like a vampire and has attitude to redirect the attack to other target monster. It is just fill with random shit, like they can redirect the attack to opponent's other monsters. (Which is illegal move) --FredCat 23:30, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blank it. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:35, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. They are just trolling and spamming it too much without any User Names. >_> --FredCat 23:39, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hidden Arsenal 4: Trishula’s Triumph

Why did you redirect Hidden Arsenal 4: Trishula’s Triumph to itself? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 00:16, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't; I moved it from the title with the curly/fancy apostrophe to the one with the straight apostrophe. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:21, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well will ya look at that. The pages I was on still used the fancy one. I couldn't see the difference before, but I'll correct them. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 00:31, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, MediaWiki doesn't make it easy to see little differences like that (it's a million times worse for whitespace and Unicode control characters, though =P ). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:50, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hide factbox

I know how to stop pages from borking by doing this. What I don't know is why this happens (beyond very long Japanese names). So I'm sort of curious. And other than adding the hide factbox template, how do we fix it? I've even seen it several episode articles recently (thought it was isolated to card pages). Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:55, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

It's caused by SMW unintelligently "cutting" Ruby markup at very stupid places when it displays in the factbox - the invalid markup breaks the factbox table, and this breaks the whole page. The only way to fix it other than hiding the factbox is changing how SMW handles such long values (only two realistic choices: don't try cutting values that appear to contain HTML or wikimarkup, or simply don't output such values). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:51, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

I see. Does anything else cause that? If not, I guess it was the Japanese names in the episode infoboxes too... Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:59, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well, in theory, any block-level HTML element stuffed into a Type:Text property could do it; it's only limited to Ruby for us since that's the only such HTML we normally use with SMW (bold, italics, and the like don't count since they're inline elements and can't break the page). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:52, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

JUMP ain't Official TROLOLOLOL

I am thinking of to lock "Dark Magician" front page from having it change back and forth in two different images. That user who just revoke your edit think this site is for Asia. That's just wonderful counter-respond. --FredCat 03:55, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I saw his first switch, but haven't followed up yet. I'll have a look in a second. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:47, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The "Neo Space" archetype

The most recent errata for "Elemental HERO Divine Neos" names a "Neo Space" archetype, which would consist of "Neo Space" and "Neo Space Pathfinder". It seems this is to clarify that the latter card can be used as a Fusion Material, since it had "Neos" in its OCG name. Any objections to just redirecting Neo Space (archetype) to "Neos" and adding a paragraph to that article regarding it? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:36, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me; the "Neo Space" cards already seem to be tagged as part of the "Neos" archetype, so there's no problem there. "List of "Neo Space" cards" and "List of "Neo Space" support cards" should be redirected to List of "Neos" cards and List of "Neos" support cards, respectively, though (and possibly "Neo Space (archetype)" should have redirects as well). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:01, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

"Wights" VS "Skull Servants"

Hello, on October 31st, you moved Skull Servant onto Wight. Today, without comments or questions, User:IgorThunderMaster changed it back. Please consider looking at the Talk:Skull Servants page so that we can discuss this. --LordGeovanni- (Talk To Me) *Kupo* 01:17, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

The page was moved back; I'll have a look at the discussion in a minute. =)

Spammer in chat

Help. MAJOR SMAMMER IN CHAT --I'm the Haitian Seto Kaiba. Deal with it. (talk • contribs) 23:34, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Come on chat please{{SUBST:User:BardockGoku/sig}} 08:24, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Would you care to offer your view of the whole "similiar cards with Japanese names" issue at Talk:Scratch Wheel? Not sure what your opinion is on the whole thing right now, but this is something that does need to be resolved. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 02:44, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Duel Terminal on chat

I have a thing we should do on the chat: Duel Terminal where you can duel all you want! I want to rebuild the oringinal Duel Terminal idea from TwoTailedFox. Message me for ideas. --I'm the Haitian Seto Kaiba. Deal with it. (talk • contribs) 19:59, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't really have much to do with chat, I'm afraid. Deltaneos or Cheesedude might be able to help you more than I could; they're both on chat more often than me. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:06, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Don't people use chat to Duel anyway? Generally, someone is using chat to Duel any time I log onto it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:44, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

That's actually what it seems like to me too. I prefer IRC for this reason; people can duel on a separate channel and not clog up the main channel, and also not run the risk of their duel being interrupted by sudden spats of activity. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:58, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Right. I prefer neither, since I just don't talk much. I never have much to say in relation to what goes on in either place, since I don't play the TCG anyway.

EgyptianDuelist, can you explain what you mean in more detail? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:20, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be on them more often, but they're productivity sinks for me - when I'm on, I have to obsessively follow all discussion to see if there's anything interesting happening (though it's worse for Wikia chat than for IRC, since the former has no way of alerting you on pings, which means if you don't constantly check back there's a chance you'll miss some question directed at you)... =P 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:38, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Removing "(disambiguation)"

Could you move Obelisk (disambiguation) as well? I don't know how to move over a redirect. v_v --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 15:41, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Got it. Non-admins can only move pages over redirects if there's a single edit in the redirect's history, which is why you couldn't do it in this case. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:46, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

That explains how I saw a non-administrator moved a page then; it must not have had any edits in its history. Thanks. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 20:52, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

One with the Shadow

Thanks for shut him up. That user is quite inappropriate to make a comment like that. --FredCat 12:55, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. In cases like that, it's often best to just revert and ignore (unless they're doing a lot of it, in which case the procedure changes to "revert, block, ignore"). =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:21, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

I am aware of that, I learned that important lesson of "trolling" other user like that. And do you know the reference on the topic I used? --FredCat 16:25, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're talking about; what topic, where? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:40, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

XD "One with the Shadow" is what I am pointing to. lolwtfbbq --FredCat 21:49, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, that. I thought you were perhaps referring to me being stealthy or something like that. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:51, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yea, that's the achievement you will have to release in recently release game - Elder Scroll V: Skyrim. It's an Thieves base achievement. :| --FredCat 22:00, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Aah, that makes sense. I didn't know that, since I don't have Skyrim and haven't played it at all (though my brother does and has). Game-wise, I prefer Minecraft most of the time anyways. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:03, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much, it's actually difficult achievement to unlocked along with "Criminal Master" and 100k coin for "Golden Touch". --FredCat 22:50, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Raw Victory Condition

Am I doing it right? --FredCat 21:45, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Looks pretty good; I touched it up for you. =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:52, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

So that's one broken card ever release into the OCG/TCG universe? Can't be negated at ALL? --FredCat 22:01, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

According to the effect posted by Shriek. We'll see if it holds up in its actual release (and the inevitable ensuing TCG release). =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:05, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

New Article

Ah thank you for unscrew it up into correct line. I have no sense of japan word around here. --FredCat 16:56, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, though I'm not much better, to be honest - at best, I can go by visually comparing characters and seeing what Google Translate has to say. ;P 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:19, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

You got some japan knowledge, where I can't reach. Though I am a Copycat - I am not much of speaker. --FredCat 18:48, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox issue

Is there any way to get the "manga debut" parameter in {{Infobox/Yu-Gi-Oh!/Character}} to work with non-numerical chapter names? Masumi Momono debuts in Yu-Gi-Oh! R - Duel Round SP1 and Dr. Faker debuts in Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL - Rank SP1. Using the template like I would for any other chapter borks the page, so I ended up hardcoding the text instead. I created both of those chapter pages with those names based on the fact that we have an episode article similiary named. No characters debuted there though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:05, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure, to be honest; I need a link to a "typical" usage, so I can see how it's supposed to behave (right now, I'm really not sure what I'm looking for in the template). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:40, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

The manga debut parameter of any character. Let's go with Axel Brodie. In the code, you'd be looking for "appears manga =" Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:45, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

It seems to work just fine for me; am I still not fully grasping the issue? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:09, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Heh. Well, it works now. When I originally added the manga debut to Dr Faker's article, it didn't work properly. Admittedly, I haven't tried again since then, and only added the debut to Momono's article today. Oh well. Thanks. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:02, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

How long ago was it that you tried it? The place the issue would have been would be {{Chapter}} and {{Episode}}, not the infobox, and having a timescale would let me look through more recent edits to them and see what edit might have changed the behavior (of course, now this is just to satisfy my curiosity as opposed to actually fixing anything =D ). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:49, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

I took a look through the edit history of Dr. Faker. It was back in July. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 04:50, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, that narrows it down to pretty much all four edits made this year. =D If I had to guess (without testing anything), I'd say the most likely candidate would be my refactoring of {{Chapter}}. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 05:59, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oh hell. Check the link in the infobox of Masumi Momono. It reads "Duel Round SP1" and links to Yu-Gi-Oh! R - Duel Round 001. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 05:02, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well, fsck. That would be because Yu-Gi-Oh! R - Duel Round SP1 doesn't have anything in the "chapter number" parameter in the infobox - but putting the value "SP1" there just breaks everything horribly (and stuffs the value "1" in the relevant properties, meaning even if it didn't break everything horribly, it'd have the same exact result - to make matters worse yet, both those properties have a type of Number, meaning they won't accept the value "SP1" anyways). This is something that cannot be fixed without a significant overhaul of the system as it now stands, I think, and one more piece of evidence in the "I hate SMW more and more" case (maybe I should write a rant about that... >_> ). Given all this, it's also something I won't be looking at actually fixing until I write a new version of the infobox ({{Infobox archetype}} was only a beginning, to help me figure stuff out ;) ), if even then. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:00, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Damn. I'm not sure why we chose "SP1" to denote these articles in the first place. As I said, I did the two manga articles that way for consistency with Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's - Episode SP1 (which I assume stands for "special episode 1"). You're saying that we must use a numerical value for now, yes? What if we moved to "000" (each of these is "special" because it's not part of the main continuity of that series. Both were used for advertising purposes. They threw a special chapter into a different magazine in the hopes of getting people to read the other chapters in the other magazine). Let me go ask Delt, too. Fairly sure he created the 5D's article. If all else fails, we'll just hardcode the links and be done with it for now. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:48, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it has to be a number, no two ways around it (this is also why we need two properties for ATK, DEF, Level, and Rank).

I'd be fine with "000"; it's every bit as arbitrary as "SP1", but does make some limited amount of sense on its own. At any rate, though, let's see if Delt has anything to say. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:04, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why we need to number special episodes and chapters when they're not ordinal. I moved the Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's special episode some time ago for that reason. Why not just manually create the link to the special episodes and chapters, like we would for a film or video game? -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:12, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

(outdent)Went ahead and moved the R article. Simply having no chapter number in the "chapter number" causes it to display the "next chapter" link as being Yu-Gi-Oh! R - Duel Round 001. Removing the "chapter number" parameter from the infobox altogether terribly borks the page and causes it to spit out an unlinked list of cards in alphabetical order. On a related note, what's going on at Yu-Gi-Oh! R chapter listing? Duel Rounds 7 and 15 show up twice, with the first time being at the top of the list with no image and still linking to "chapter" instead of "Duel Round". Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 19:55, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

The infobox now leaves out the previous and next sections if there is no chapter number specified.

It was a messy cache problem. After the pages got renamed, the old titles, which are now redirects, retained the SMW properties they had before the page got moved. Null editing the redirects fixed this. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:45, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

New Gallery is sh-*

I don't understand why new gallery is create but limited to just 1 goddamn image per box? Ain't it better off with old version? --FredCat 12:09, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

That's because {{Gallery1}} (and {{Gallery2}}, {{Gallery3}}, {{Gallery4}}, {{Gallery5}}, and {{Gallery}}) are actually old, deprecated templates - {{t}GalleryHeader}} and a hardcoded <gallery/> are the current, preferred method (though I've been pondering for a while now about how more of this could be templated). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:24, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Why have "Clay Charge" hold the over ANCIENT gallery box? *sigh* --FredCat 18:35, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Because no one has bothered taking the time to orphan those templates yet. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:37, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Weird link formatting

This week's ZEXAL episode contains a card called Negative <=> Positive Swap" (ネガ⇔ポジ反転). It will not link properly that way, and there's no way to nowiki it with nowiking the link that I can think of. You know a workaround? Or should we call the article something else like in the case of cards like "Rock Ogre Grotto #1"? Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 13:42, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

I am sure they should handle it like the one with "Magi Magi ☆ Magician Gal"... Symbol like those can't be coded well unless there are specify line to put it in. --FredCat 13:53, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Is there any reason not to use the arrow glyph directly, e.g. "Negative ⇔ Positive Swap", as Fredcat points out? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:35, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Not that I can think of. Nor would I have thought to do. Nor did I realize that's what FredCat meant. I'll just go ahead and do that now. We can always move it later if we need to. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:37, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, cool. It helps to remember that MediaWiki is built from the ground up (well, not really, but it might as well be) on Unicode, and with the exception of certain wikimarkup characters, if you can write it on a page, you can use it in a page title (and even link to it). Unfortunately, this also extends to weird whitespace characters and control characters (at least, AFAIK... that may have been fixed at some point). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:41, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Btw, apologize for bring the random comment here, Dino - I was trying to give an evidence of how other article get it. At least I helped grant you both a consider of how to get it covered. --FredCat 15:45, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

No problem; you should be aware by now of my own tendency to butt in on conversations that have nothing to do with me... =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:56, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think I can chop up pair of butts to place on here... Or if you mean by Metaphor Purpose of "Butt-In"? --FredCat 16:06, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

I meant the idiomatic meaning, though looking at that definition, it seems to be a bit "stronger" than I thought it was. =/ 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:08, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see... It's been fun to playing with the word, ain't we? --FredCat 16:10, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yep yep! =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:12, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

FredCat's New Article

Hey, check it out! --FredCat 16:27, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty interesting! I'm not so sure about "ditch" instead of "discard", but I quite like "mill" in place of "send cards from the top of the Deck to the Graveyard"! =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:46, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I will writing in the define of those new words whenever chance I can get. I am little busy on other side. --FredCat 20:58, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

"Words Define" is post in that article, And be sure to remember that it's not "real". --FredCat 21:21, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re.

It is a bit dumb that there isn't an automatic system that scans (once a month) cards that interact with your/opponents Graveyard, and then lists them in the current list (It would be much better). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 21:07, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, that would require parsing card effects, which would entail largely solving the problem of natural language parsing. We do have a system in place already that allows the lists to be made automatic (SMW), but the tags have to be added to card pages manually and currently the whole thing is just too scattershot to be really useful for this (not least of all because a query that lists all cards that can interact with the Graveyard in any way is too large for SMW's query limits). I'd like to have a look at the whole thing in the future, but there's no telling when that might actually happen. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:18, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should rebuild TwoTailedFox's idea of Duel Terminal on the Chat. Do you think so too? Message me for ideas. --I'm the Haitian Seto Kaiba. Deal with it. (talk • contribs) 21:20, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

archetype strategies

Hey, DinoGuy! I'm wondering if you can put more strategies on archetype pages, like you did in the new Forest archetype. Please respond back! Guardmaster (talk • contribs) 21:48, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

That wasn't me, that was Haitham Messast (and possibly Shardsilver, too, I didn't look at his edits too closely). Generally speaking, I'm not much of a Duelist, and that extends to coming up with and even just documenting strategies. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:58, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Insanity Increased

Please check out that article I sent you earlier (second latest to this, only by my name) to see any addition information. I am starting to think I felt little crazy after added all LS shit there. --FredCat 02:54, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Japanese kanji for card sets

I noticed that on Pot of Duality's page that another Administrator had listed the Japanese kanji for the OCG set's name, with a the redirect bypassed. It's been done seemingly randomly for other cards, I think by the same Admin. Leave it be or take it out? --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 23:35, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Leave it be. Eventually (when I finally get {{Card table set}} finished and it starts getting deployed), all card pages will use the localized set name for any particular release; this will be automatic. In the meantime, there's at least one person doing so manually, as you've noticed. It's not necessary to do it now, but if someone wants to anyway, we may as well let them. ;) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:16, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Roger that! Hopefully that project (and all your others) go smoothly. :) --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 01:46, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

They usually do once I sit down to work on them; getting to that point usually ends up being the hard part for me. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:52, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Short Print

Like "Naturia Beast" and "Ally of Justice Catastor", those cards with "Short Print" are like often making their appearance than they original to be, or am I thinking wrong? --FredCat 23:21, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

You're asking if Short Print cards are visually identical to Common cards, right? If so, yes (and if not, you'll have to explain better). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:55, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Closer, but how can I tell that they are short-print? Such as the two I mentioned are common seen pull out of pack easily? And yea, my context on this part is tightly because I am busy writing two stories and bunch of create new cards that required for one chapter. :( --FredCat 00:30, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

There isn't any way just by looking at the cards themselves - if you put a Common card and a Short Print card side-by-side (and ignore the differences arising from the fact that they're two different cards), you won't be able to tell which is which with a visual comparison. Short Print cards are rarer than Common cards, though (they are called "Normal Rares" in the OCG), so you would pull them less often from packs. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:52, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Article Lockdown

May you please lock up "Luna" from unregistered users? Shard is having hard time trying to keep it clear. --FredCat 23:27, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protected for one month. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:31, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, that's all I asked. --FredCat 23:33, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

A lot of people have been removing those sentences. Shardsilver and his "cousin" were the main advocates for them to be added at all. Someone needs to integrate those last lines into the sections with better wording. It's supposed to read like a biography, not be a list of episode numbers. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 23:49, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the only ones that have done anything, are usually one-time Ip users who's sole edit is simply removing that (also, from what I can see, no registered users have tried to remove it). If you look at Yusei and Aki's articles, they have episode Numbers to (I'm just saying). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 23:53, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

I've never removed it, but have disagreed on the talk pages. So has Golden Key. I'm not entirely sure what Cheesedude's stance was. The only ones I've seen in totally in favour have been Shardsilver, Shardsilver's IP, an account that was used by the same IP and another IP with two edits. If you're disregarding short time users/IPs, that leaves just yourself in favour. Every time you revert someone removing the line, you tell them to see the talk page, but I don't see any agreement on the talk page to include it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:59, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I did try to reason, by bringing up an agreement on Leo's talk page (which an IP user agreed to), and so far, nobody seemed to have any problems with what I suggested. However, I also agree with "Goldenkey", that if need be, I can re-word those sentences (give me a few days, and I'll try to word it like whats in Yusei and Aki's biograghys. And if you guys feel they still need re-wording, I'll do just that)). Does that sound reasonable? Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 19:18, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

I would actually prefer if Deltaneos did the revisions; he wrote the page on character articles and has a ton of experience making them. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 00:00, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thats fine with me, I see no problem with that. Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 01:32, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Would you mind taking the protect off Luna's article (I don't think it will be needed anymore, now that the speculation is pretty much gone, and replaced with facts and references). Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 20:06, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

I've lowered it to a week; there's no harm in leaving the protection on for a few more days. =) 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:09, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Edit restriction for chat access

I was thinking up a rule about the chat: You must have at least 25 edits before you can go on the chat. Isn't the chat a privalage? Tell me what you think. --I'm the Haitian Seto Kaiba. Deal with it. (talk • contribs) 18:02, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

No and no. Even if it were possible for us to set such a limit (and it's not), it's highly doubtful Wikia would allow us to do so. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:33, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wikiamobile skin

In the mobile skin, level 2 headings are meant to toggle whether the content below them is shown or hidden. e.g. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/talk:Main%20Page?useskin=wikiamobile But the content on the Main Page stays hidden http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main%20Page?useskin=wikiamobile Have you any idea what's causing this? -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:38, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

No I don't, though I didn't look very closely... I'll try to take a closer look later, if you haven't gotten it figured out. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:19, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

It works fine when the <mainpage-leftcolumn-start />, <mainpage-endcolumn />, <mainpage-rightcolumn-start /> and <mainpage-endcolumn /> tags are removed. So the problem is most likely to do with them. I suppose I'll report it as a bug later and let Wikia handle it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:35, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting... Does the problem still happen if you duplicate the output of the tags in "raw" HTML and CSS? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:57, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about the late reply. It was a while before I realised you'd responded. The problem was fixed just as I was trying your suggestion. Weird timing. I hadn't even reported it as a problem before it got fixed. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:17, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

No worries, and cool, I like stuff getting fixed without me needing to do anything. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:20, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Deserter

Just wanna let you know about this... I just noticed something complete wrong with them. --FredCat 17:15, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not familiar enough with the Gardna series to be able to say whether "Desert Protector" fits its theme... Cheesedude mentions on the talk page there that DP's effect does fit, since it's a defensive effect, but there may be more to the Gardna theme then just that. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:42, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Two questions/suggestions

First, what do you think about a template for "conjectural name"? There are things we document on this wiki that don't have canonical names, so we need to make up our own. The example the sticks out the most would be The Door. Wookieepedia has a template for that, so that's where I got the idea.

Secondly, would it be helpful at all to have a list of card images that are impossible to get? I don't mean we can't find them. I mean they don't exist. For example, I believe we now have card images of every card that appears in the GX manga - except those that don't appear in card form. "Winged Kuriboh LV10" was used several times, but it was never once shown in card form. There are a number of other examples from that manga, and a few from the various animes too. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:31, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

That would probably be a good idea... it could be accompanied by a generalization to {{Unofficial name}} allowing it to be used on articles beyond just card articles. "Template:Conjectural name" is a very clear and concise description of what the proposed template would do, but I'm a bit worried that it's too technical to be easily remembered, and I don't think the template would be used widely enough to justify including it amongst the edittools interface... That being said, I can't really suggest any other names, and {{Hide Factbox}} (which, IIRC, I named myself) certainly argues against me. ;P

Isn't that what List of unseen cards is? Currently, I think the list just covers those cards that are not seen in any fashion - neither card nor monster - but it would be reasonable to expand to include those cards whose monster form is the only one shown, I think. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:47, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

We could just continue using "unofficial" and leave conjectural out if that word may cause too much confusion. Unofficial means much the same thing anyway.

That might work. Though for the example, I gave, it wouldn't - since "Winged Kuriboh LV10" is a real card and appears in card form in the anime. It's only specifically in the manga the card isn't shown. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 18:53, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Works for me.

I don't see any reason the list has to be restricted just to cards that did not appear in any media; it seems perfectly reasonable that we could have different sections for different levels of "unseen-ness": the first could be for cards that are only mentioned, and never shown in any way, with per-medium subsections as necessary, followed by cards that are only shown in monster or effect form (again, with per-medium subsections as necessary). Thoughts? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:09, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, cool.

I don't have any particular objections to do it that way, though I do think we'd need to rename the page. Don't know to what. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:39, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

The name "The Door" comes from the cast list of the first episode of ZEXAL. Kazuhiko Inoue is credited as "voice of the door" (扉の声, tobira no koe). Although "the" is something that gets added in translation, since Japanese grammar doesn't require as many pronouns as English grammar. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:06, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough. Didn't realize that. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 21:39, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

A merge and a removal

Hey Dinoguy, I need help with two things. First, I noticed Cursed Waters Level 3 appears twice in the List of "Umi" support cards. Second, these two pages are in need of a merger. Thanks. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 19:05, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

That's a known issue, and one we can't really do much of anything about; even editing the page isn't enough to get the duplicate entry off the list.

Those aren't the only two pages tagged for merging. Decks aren't really my forté, regardless, so I'm not really the best person to ask about merging Deck-related articles. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:14, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I tried doing a null edit before asking about the duplicate issue, but when that didn't work I assumed it must be an Administrator level issue.

And yes, I have seen we have a lot of things to be merged, but since this seemed like a simple enough cut and paste job I thought I'd mention it. I guess every Administrator has a specialty and a weakness. :) --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 19:37, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, unfortunately this issue is out of the reach of even the admins to fix... It's ultimately a bug in SMW. =(

Yeah, my specialty happens to be technical stuff - template and wikimarkup sorcery - and my weakness is most else. =D 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:56, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I need help

How can I become a administrator. I want to help out yugioh wikia. plZ leave a message on my page Mek--MekHunterG5 (talk • contribs) 16:42, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

The only way is to file a request on Project:Requests for adminship and wait for the community to decide if they want to trust you with the bit or not. That being said, what type of work are you wanting to do that you think requires admin privileges? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:49, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

how can i become an admin —This unsigned comment was made by Ceep61 (talk • contribs) 20:23, December 31, 2011

I wrote how to do so directly above your comment. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:32, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

I think these days, when people ask that, we can usually assume it's chatmoderator they're looking for. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:44, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Probably... Do we have anyone yet that spends enough time in chat as to be able to vouch for requesters? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:54, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Despite my claim to try to spend more time in chat, I haven't. I really consider the chat's presence to be nothing but a nuisance at this point. No one that edits really uses it and no one that uses it bothers to contribute. It really has nothing to do with this wiki. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 03:08, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Well, it really doesn't help any that most of us that know how to do so make it a point to avoid using the Wikia skin. The situation might be far better if Wikia were just willing to add some of the new features to Monobook, but they have to choose that of all things to listen far too closely to their vocal technical users minority. =P 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:54, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

I agree chat has very little to do with the wiki anymore. It's nothing like I expected it to be when the idea to enable it was suggested.

From what I have seen, there tends to be a lot of unnecessary arguments and flame wars among users on chat. Often with each side thinking the other is behaving inappropriately. My main concern with giving someone chatmod rights, is that they'll end up taking sides in one of these arguments and banning the users they disagree with. Bans like these can cause people to resort to trolling. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:31, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Renaming Type lists

After I saw Deltaneos's counterargument, I figured my changes to the Aqua pages would get reverted (hence why I didn't do any other Types). The fact that your initial comment was made so long ago without opposition made me think it was fine to go ahead in the first place. Oh well, sorry to make you have to clean up my mess. :) --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 22:24, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

May I still go ahead and make the initial change you proposed? ("List of anti-Warrior-Type support cards" to "List of Warrior-Type anti-support cards", etc.) --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 03:57, January 1, 2012 (UTC)